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Rick O Shea said:
It was Neil Simpson, not Neil Cooper - it was awful - I was at the game and had a good view. Neil Simpson is actually a really nice bloke.

There was always an edge to Aberdeen Rangers games before that tackle - It think Alex Ferguson saw Aberdeen beating Rangers as being a vehicle for revenge (or something).
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Looks like both sides were flying in with tackles escalating before the Simpson one...

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roppa said:
This 100% in Belfast KAH is plastered all over. A lot reckon it goes back to harland and Wolff, a German firm only employing Protestants in their yards in Belfast and Glasgow.
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Of it’s 2 founder’s,Harland was English and Wolfe was born in Hamburg but moved to Liverpool when he was 14 .
It did employ Catholics ,including Maurice O’Kane a welder who was shot dead in the yard by the UFF in June 1994 . Even though there was dozens of men working close by ,nobody saw or hear anything.
 
Dun Scathach said:
100% agree.

I think you have to be very careful here though because “Kill all Huns” is a far more recent counter response to the long established, loyalist paramilitary origin phrase of “Kill all Taigs” that’s been in sectarian play since the 1940s.

The two are just as wrong, but in this sense, nowhere near as equivalent.
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I’ve never come across the term Taigs before.
 
Dun Scathach said:
Just becomes a depressing race to the bottom.

My problem has been and will always be, one club calls it out and actively tries to police it. The other, by turning a blind eye effectively condones it.

If both clubs would be willing to have the same positive approach as Celtic it’d end much sooner.

Nil by Mouth are the anti-sectarian agency in Scotland and they time and again come up against stone wall silence from the orange lodges in Scotland and their default influence over a certain football club. Zero attempts to engage.
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So why aren't the green brigade banned from Parkhead ? That would be a strong signal from Celtic that the IRA chants and other nonsense is not acceptable. Perhaps they are too scared to do that as seen as challenging a significant minority of their support?
 
Dun Scathach said:
Funny that. Kill all Taigs is a phrase that originated in Glasgow in the 1940s as your good guys were advocating for a bit of ethnic cleansing.

In more recent years, the onion bears have on their travels been pasting the phrase on their banners and sticking them about the place on their travels. Here’s some of their recent work in Scotland…

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I suspect that some Aberdeen supporters have been aggrieved at Rangers passion for the idea of murdering catholics and this bed sheet today was an attempt at firing back at them. Hence “Kill all huns”.

You might even say the perpetrators are making themselves out to be the victims here?
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There was graffiti recently in the Glasgow reading:
‘Taigs out’ ‘blacks out’ ‘gio out’.
There has never been a club with a bigger victim complex than the rangers.
 
Dun Scathach said:
He talks about it in his autobiography and in the documentary his son made with him after his stroke.

He was a boyhood Rangers fan who after a difficult spell with them as a player found that his choice of wife was becoming an issue with the directors at the club. He was famously asked whether he would be “marrying Cathy in chapel” and because she was catholic he found the clubs attitude to him changed, says that his only regret was that as a young man he should have had the greater confidence to respond to the directors and tell them to “F**k off” there and then.

There’s great footage after Aberdeen beat Rangers in the Scottish FA cup final and he’s furious in the interview because he wanted to beat them emphatically.

Jock Stein was also his mentor until the day he died.

He has strong feeling about them to this day.


Can you show me a single Celtic banner that contains the word kill or for that matter any verb even close to it?
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Celtic and Rangers fans are renowned for unwanted bigotry filth coming from their “fans.” No point scoring or tit for tit just wrong to bring it into sport.
The scum singing about a murdered soldier is not defendable by nobody.

What is wrong with them.
 
Wrenthorpe Mackem said:
So why aren't the green brigade banned from Parkhead ? That would be a strong signal from Celtic that the IRA chants and other nonsense is not acceptable. Perhaps they are too scared to do that as seen as challenging a significant minority of their support?
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What makes you think many aren’t? They do, there are cases covered in the press where the club identify and ban for life fans who go too far.

They can’t preemptively ban the entire green brigade but the clubs attitude and response to them have ensured they’ve stayed the right side of a very fine line 99% of the time. It’s an ongoing issue and I applaud the club for not dropping the fight. I am critical that they acquiesced on the proposed appointment of the football hooliganism chief appointment kind you. I believe that would have been a positive move.

The Celtic symphony song is a complex issue. It’s not welcome, I’m pleased I didn’t hear it today at Livingston and I’m pleased I’ve heard it less in recent away games after it became resurgent with fans free from the scrutiny at Celtic Park this last year.
Swindon On Tour said:
Celtic and Rangers fans are renowned for unwanted bigotry filth coming from their “fans.” No point scoring or tit for tit just wrong to bring it into sport.
The scum singing about a murdered soldier is not defendable by nobody.

What is wrong with them.
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People who want to lump Celtic in with Rangers always go for the Lee Rigby song but they always stop short of this bit… Always. It’s almost as though they just want to hate them because they represent something they don’t like.

“Celtic Football Club
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, and said: “Clearly everyone at Celtic is appalled by these events.

“Such behaviour, in no way, represents Celtic Football Club or our supporters.

“We understand this incident is now subject to an ongoing
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enquiry.

“Let us be clear: in the event that any individuals are identified as being responsible, Celtic will take the strongest possible action.”
 
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Dun Scathach said:
What makes you think many aren’t? They do, there are cases covered in the press where the club identify and ban for life fans who go too far.

They can’t preemptively ban the entire green brigade but the clubs attitude and response to them have ensured they’ve stayed the right side of a very fine line 99% of the time. It’s an ongoing issue and I applaud the club for not dropping the fight. I am critical that they acquiesced on the proposed appointment of the football hooliganism chief appointment kind you. I believe that would have been a positive move.

The Celtic symphony song is a complex issue. It’s not welcome, I’m pleased I didn’t hear it today at Livingston and I’m pleased I’ve heard it less in recent away games after it became resurgent with fans free from the scrutiny at Celtic Park this last year.


People who want to lump Celtic in with Rangers always go for the Lee Rigby song but they always stop short of this bit… Always. It’s almost as though they just want to hate them because they represent something they don’t like.

“Celtic Football Club
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, and said: “Clearly everyone at Celtic is appalled by these events.

“Such behaviour, in no way, represents Celtic Football Club or our supporters.

“We understand this incident is now subject to an ongoing
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enquiry.

“Let us be clear: in the event that any individuals are identified as being responsible, Celtic will take the strongest possible action.”
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Celtic could do whatever they want, they appetite isn’t there to take on the Green Brigade and a lot of what your saying about the club being pro active in this regard is just nonsense. The club enable the Green Brigade with their associated sectarian leanings, no amount of virtue signaling from apologists change that.
 
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