Put a flat earthier into space

[Pancho]

All people have help at some point for many things.
The issue is in which person believes their help constitutes their own fact or whether they can admit they don;t have the facts but have a reliance on a belief they are told the facts and also believe they're qualified to pass that on.

More world salad in a vain attempt to deflect from the fact that you are parroting absolute bollocks without the merest hint of understanding.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

No I haven't. If I had, and posted the measurements, would you even believe them?

If you had and you did then how do you use that to define Earth being a globe?
Does a tug of war between people mean they're catering for a curvature or just leverage?

Lots of stuff to think about.

They're freely available anyway, but you'll dismiss them as untrue if I look them up.

For a global Earth, I absolutely will dismiss them.

Again, this only becomes necessary if you choose to follow the nonsense originally put forward by your snake oil salesman who came up with all this shite over a hundred years ago. There is no valid reason for insisting on personal experience here when all of this has been studied, tested, peer reviewed repeatedly for longer than something really long, like this thread.

The argument boils down to, who are the snake oil salespeople?
You can cite anyone who puts forward anything that goes against your grain.
I can argue that point and here we are.

Again your failure to accept proof does not invalidate it or give any credence to your argument.

And your failure to offer it does not validate your argument.

The onus is on you to discredit with evidence the proof your are trying to say is invalid

Not at all.
The onus is on everyone to pick and choose which way they choose to question and believe or accept.

 

[chelt_mackem]

If you were stood in-between a 50-stone person much taller than you and obviously wider and someone directly behind that 50-stone person was throwing rocks at you and considering we go by your space being the vacuum, then how does the rock thrower manage to hit your body facing the 50 stone person?

Would the 50-stone person take the brunt of the hit with the rest going past and missing you?

Shouldn't Earth's backside be like the moon in this case and should the moon's face be showing those craters?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

More world salad in a vain attempt to deflect from the fact that you are parroting absolute bollocks without the merest hint of understanding.

And you're very welcome to think that. I have no issue with it.

 

[Kevj]

If you were stood in-between a 50-stone person much taller than you and obviously wider and someone directly behind that 50-stone person was throwing rocks at you and considering we go by your space being the vacuum, then how does the rock thrower manage to hit your body facing the 50 stone person?

Would the 50-stone person take the brunt of the hit with the rest going past and missing you?

Shouldn't Earth's backside be like the moon in this case and should the moon's face be showing those craters?

Firstly, the earth spins, so any meteors which hit earth which would have hit the moon can and could have hit any part of the surface of the earth, not just the backside.

Secondly, a meteor can come from any direction at all, so a meteor that passes the earth very closely, but at an angle which could hit the moon in the middle or even opposite sections to the side it passed the earth. The correlation here isn’t relative size, it’s angle.

Thirdly:

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[The Snockerty Friddle]

If you were stood in-between a 50-stone person much taller than you and obviously wider and someone directly behind that 50-stone person was throwing rocks at you and considering we go by your space being the vacuum, then how does the rock thrower manage to hit your body facing the 50 stone person?

And if the 50 stone person was stood 400,000km away from you while the rockswerebeing thrown from considerably further than that?

Would the 50-stone person take the brunt of the hit with the rest going past and missing you?

Jupiter does exactly this but some do get past. Space is very big.

Shouldn't Earth's backside be like the moon in this case and should the moon's face be showing those craters?

Did you read the reply that mentioned the atmosphere which deflects some, burns up some and helps hide the impacts of others?

 

[legend7]

If you're interested then pick at it and see where it gets you. If not then disregard it and save yourself any frustration it might create.

I am and I've looked and nothing comes up to suggest rivers of silver and gold.
Why specifically silver and gold?
Where do these rivers run to?

 

[payne]

No.
There is direct observation of what people are told is a global Earth, nothing more than that.

If you think I'm wrong (which obviously you do) then offer me something from you and only you that tells you you live on a spinning global Earth.

If you're interested then pick at it and see where it gets you. If not then disregard it and save yourself any frustration it might create.

Someone may help you.

It's a quality tactic from conspiracy theorists this one. 'Please provide me evidence that has never been uttered in the rest of human history. If you use anything that has been mentioned by another person or you've read in a book is invalid'

Their view is fine though as it's not presented as fact.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Firstly, the earth spins, so any meteors which hit earth which would have hit the moon can and could have hit any part of the surface of the earth, not just the backside.

And yet we see very little of anything on Earth when we should be peppered as we see in that moon image.

Secondly, a meteor can come from any direction at all, so a meteor that passes the earth very closely, but at an angle which could hit the moon in the middle or even opposite sections to the side it passed the earth.

Yep but we are talking about a face that is shown to us at all times with only a face turn to become upside down, so that doesn;t cut it to be fair.

The correlation here is relative size, it’s angle.

Angle would suggest skimming to a stop which would not be a simple crater.

 

[Kevj]

And yet we see very little of anything on Earth when we should be peppered as we see in that moon image.

Because we have an atmosphere, active tectonic activity in the crust and a climate which assists both the growth of organic material and erosion. There are remnants of craters, just not as obvious as on a barren surface such as the moon. But you know this don’t you, you little tinker.

 

[chelt_mackem]

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For a global Earth, I absolutely will dismiss them.

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Exactly, you'll dismiss any evidence presented to you that demonstrates a globe Earth, regardless of its provenance. The difference in distances between all 4 pillars of the Humber Bridge at the top and at river level being a prime example of this evidence.

 

[payne]

Because we have an atmosphere, active tectonic activity in the crust and a climate which assists both the growth of organic material and erosion. There are remnants of craters, just not as obvious as on a barren surface such as the moon. But you know this don’t you, you little tinker.

I don't think he believes in tectonic activity, or at least his version will use all the original words to describe rivers of gold

 

[Nukehasslefan]

And if the 50 stone person was stood 400,000km away from you while the rockswerebeing thrown from considerably further than that?

If your space vacuum is to be believed then we have to also assume the Earth does exactly the same thing in terms of stopping the direct hit to the face of the moon, regardless of distance, unless you're advocating a curve around the Earth to the moon. I'm sure you won't be.

Jupiter does exactly this but some do get past. Space is very big.

Jupiter does what?

Did you read the reply that mentioned the atmosphere which deflects some, burns up some and helps hide the impacts of others?

There's no atmosphere on the moon, so we're told.
As for Earth, the crater suggests there would be no burnup of most that make those craters which are told to be massive on the moon and so would be far too big to be used as an excuse for a burn up on Earth.

It makes no sense for a good reason because we're not on any spinning globe.

 

[payne]

It's going full on flat earth today. Great to start the thread back up on my week off. It's fascinating seeing an individual who's actively brainwashed himself since the invention of youtube speak so honestly about his delusion.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I am and I've looked and nothing comes up to suggest rivers of silver and gold.
Why specifically silver and gold?
Where do these rivers run to?

You're not going to find anything like that in any books. I'm sure you know that.
Imagine finding this out and then wondering why your jewelry is so expensive with so much abundant crystal and what we know as precious metals.
It keeps the people of Earth ticking along.

It's a quality tactic from conspiracy theorists this one. 'Please provide me evidence that has never been uttered in the rest of human history. If you use anything that has been mentioned by another person or you've read in a book is invalid'

Their view is fine though as it's not presented as fact.

And neither is your view. It's presented as majority acceptance of it being fact, nothing more than that.

Because we have an atmosphere, active tectonic activity in the crust and a climate which assists both the growth of organic material and erosion. There are remnants of craters, just not as obvious as on a barren surface such as the moon. But you know this don’t you, you little tinker.

And you know it makes little sense for it to be like we're told.

 

[legend7]

You're not going to find anything like that in any books. I'm sure you know that.
Imagine finding this out and then wondering why your jewelry is so expensive with so much abundant crystal and what we know as precious metals.
It keeps the people of Earth ticking along.

And neither is your view. It's presented as majority acceptance of it being fact, nothing more than that.

You still haven't answered why you think the rivers are specifically silver and gold or pointed me towards anywhere I can research why you believe this.
Why has nobody on earth found any of this abundant crystal or metal?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Exactly, you'll dismiss any evidence presented to you that demonstrates a globe Earth, regardless of its provenance. The difference in distances between all 4 pillars of the Humber Bridge at the top and at river level being a prime example of this evidence.

You're offering a bridge that supposedly differs by a small amount at each pillar and you accept this story as being proof of a globe and adherence to it.
Surely you can't expect me to follow that any more than I don't expect you to think any different from your told story.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

The argument boils down to, who are the snake oil salespeople?
You can cite anyone who puts forward anything that goes against your grain.
I can argue that point and here we are.

It really doesn't.
The shape of the Earth had already been known for centuries when Samuel Rowbotham wrote the book you now quote (knowingly or otherwise). That is where the insistance on personal observation comes from along with other bits of flat earther nonsense. He claimed to be a Dr and sold "miracle cures."
What the argument actually boils down to is whether you believe him, or good sense.

If your space vacuum is to be believed then we have to also assume the Earth does exactly the same thing in terms of stopping the direct hit to the face of the moon, regardless of distance, unless you're advocating a curve around the Earth to the moon. I'm sure you won't be.

Jupiter does what?

There's no atmosphere on the moon, so we're told.
As for Earth, the crater suggests there would be no burnup of most that make those craters which are told to be massive on the moon and so would be far too big to be used as an excuse for a burn up on Earth.

It makes no sense for a good reason because we're not on any spinning globe.

You see why nothing makes sense? Because you clearly dont read the replies.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You still haven't answered why you think the rivers are specifically silver and gold or pointed me towards anywhere I can research why you believe this.
Why has nobody on earth found any of this abundant crystal or metal?

They have. Why do you think the mines are so deep?
As for the liquid metal, it's too far down and is the channel for the electrical connection of Earth just as our nerves and capillaries, veins, and blood are the same thing to keep us alive.

It's all about looking past the mainstream stories.

Precious metals are abundant along with gen stones/crystals.
How do I know this? Well, It's not by wearing khaki boots, thick socks and shorts, and a wide-brimmed hat.

 

[chelt_mackem]

You're offering a bridge that supposedly differs by a small amount at each pillar and you accept this story as being proof of a globe and adherence to it.
Surely you can't expect me to follow that any more than I don't expect you to think any different from your told story.

No. I'm offering that as one piece of evidence. The proof comes because it's consistent with the many other pieces of evidence discussed on this thread in demonstrating the globe Earth. Not only is it consistent in demonstrating it, it's consistent in demonstrating the scale of it.