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Put a flat earthier into space

So basically, what you're saying here is that you just dont understand.
Your repeated insistance on keeping the viewpoint level is just nonsensical.
If you point a telescope at the sun, firstly you're an idiot, but more relevant here is that you would have to continually adjust the tilt to keep the sun in view, and yes, someone with a higher viewpoint will be able to see the sun set fractionally longer than you at ground level. That's not a problem with the global, it's a result of it.
Only in your own imaginary flat-ish world where the sun moves over and around and off into the distance would you be able to keep the scope pointed towards it without constant adjustment.
That is the key thing of most conspiracy theories around this sort of stuff. They don't understand and fundamental to a lot of it is the idea of scale and size.

The earth is massive and the amount of curve in the 5km we can see (standing at sea level) is only a tiny percentage of the earth, and that is difficult for them to comprehend. I'm sitting here with an orange as part of my lunch. If I hold it right up to my eye I can see so much curve. But there is no way (unless I start to look through a drinking straw and get really funny looks) to see such a small fraction of it similar to what we see of the earth. Even if you try to work out that fraction and put 5/40,075 in a calculator, that gives 1.247660636306925e-4, to a lot of people that is a 'what the fuck does that mean' answer. Then you have the spin, "Why can't we feel it?". We spin at half the speed of an hour hand on a clock which we can't see move, and if you put an ant on it, it doesn't get flung off.

As people, we are tiny specs on a massive planet, which is itself a tiny spec in our solar system. It is a lot to get your head round, it is mindblowing. I can see why people struggle. Some try to overcome that struggle, some accept and ignore, some build their own fantasy and insist it is all a lie and those who claim truth are out to get them.
 

On this occasion, the photographer was taking images of the sun and the ISS happened to be in the Shot. It’s unintentional.
Possibly not unintentional:

I really want to take a picture like that or crossing the moon and this is the site to help you plan to do that. I've never had a transit go over where is convenient for me to be when it has not been cloudy, though I've not checked for a while when transits will be. (Checking now, nowt in the next few weeks)

But as for the picture quality, the ISS is 108 meters long - roughly the length of a football pitch. It is 408 km high and is moving so fast it orbits the earth in about 90 minutes. Imagine you could prop the pitch of the SoL on it's side then you could head due south for 408 km, and that the curve of the earth was not going to be an issue. You would have to stand on the southern part of the M25 and try to take a photo of the SoL pitch. This level of denial would be claiming it doesn't exist because it is not a crystal clear picture. Then put your photographer in a car going the sort of speeds you can never achieve on the M25 so you only have a 2 second window to take the snap. You are not going to get a great image are you? CONSPIRACY!!!

The other interesting thing from that site is, put in your location and do a search, then click on one of the transits or "near misses". There is one near me next Sunday, but I can see if I were somewhere on a line that runs through Bromley and Southend-on-sea, I'd be in a great location. Like a solar or lunar eclipse it shows a path of 'totality' where the ISS goes through the middle of the view of the sun or moon, a band either side where it appears closer to the edge and then looking further and further away as you move away from this band. This is parallax. Hold up two fingers, one close to your eyes, one at the length of your arm and move them until you can't see the second finger, then move your head a bit and it starts to appear. To someone across the room wondering what the hell you are doing, they can see both. It is really easy to prove show how the exact effect being described on this site works.

Now this doesn't prove a flat or a globe earth. But what it does show is that the ISS exists, you can see it, and whatever it is, it is a lot closer than the sun or moon. There is something up there that doesn't look or move like an ordinary plane, never lands, never seems to need fuel and it is 100% predictable as to where it will be. Otherwise that site would fail. The equations used to predict where it will be use equations of circular motion, along with the height and speed THEY say the ISS is at all work. All very curious if there is something else at play. And the great thing is if you doubt the site, you can test and prove it yourself by just looking up at the right time (better through a telescope or binoulars) or work through the maths yourself and predict where it should be.

The second thing it shows (just through triangulation) is that the ISS is considerably closer than the moon. Again you can try this at home with ease. Use a torch and a little cut-out. Flash the cut out close to your torch and you will see it cross the surface of the torch from a lot of the room. The further away you move it, the narrower the band you can see it cross from. It all comes down to triangles and because the path is so narrow, a little bit of maths shows it must be so much closer than the light source. This starts to put a level of scale on space around us, and if the moon is projected on a dome, that dome is a long way away, or the ISS is closer than they say but roughly the size of a packet of crisps.

I'd love to see a ISS denier give a good explanation for what it is, how it stays up there, how it is always where people say it should be and then go through these equations of circular motion that are used to calculate the position and explain how they model a completely different reality. The best we have had on here is "dunno, might be a plane". A bit of a lame attempt.
 
Possibly not unintentional:

I really want to take a picture like that or crossing the moon and this is the site to help you plan to do that. I've never had a transit go over where is convenient for me to be when it has not been cloudy, though I've not checked for a while when transits will be. (Checking now, nowt in the next few weeks)

But as for the picture quality, the ISS is 108 meters long - roughly the length of a football pitch. It is 408 km high and is moving so fast it orbits the earth in about 90 minutes. Imagine you could prop the pitch of the SoL on it's side then you could head due south for 408 km, and that the curve of the earth was not going to be an issue. You would have to stand on the southern part of the M25 and try to take a photo of the SoL pitch. This level of denial would be claiming it doesn't exist because it is not a crystal clear picture. Then put your photographer in a car going the sort of speeds you can never achieve on the M25 so you only have a 2 second window to take the snap. You are not going to get a great image are you? CONSPIRACY!!!

The other interesting thing from that site is, put in your location and do a search, then click on one of the transits or "near misses". There is one near me next Sunday, but I can see if I were somewhere on a line that runs through Bromley and Southend-on-sea, I'd be in a great location. Like a solar or lunar eclipse it shows a path of 'totality' where the ISS goes through the middle of the view of the sun or moon, a band either side where it appears closer to the edge and then looking further and further away as you move away from this band. This is parallax. Hold up two fingers, one close to your eyes, one at the length of your arm and move them until you can't see the second finger, then move your head a bit and it starts to appear. To someone across the room wondering what the hell you are doing, they can see both. It is really easy to prove show how the exact effect being described on this site works.

Now this doesn't prove a flat or a globe earth. But what it does show is that the ISS exists, you can see it, and whatever it is, it is a lot closer than the sun or moon. There is something up there that doesn't look or move like an ordinary plane, never lands, never seems to need fuel and it is 100% predictable as to where it will be. Otherwise that site would fail. The equations used to predict where it will be use equations of circular motion, along with the height and speed THEY say the ISS is at all work. All very curious if there is something else at play. And the great thing is if you doubt the site, you can test and prove it yourself by just looking up at the right time (better through a telescope or binoulars) or work through the maths yourself and predict where it should be.

The second thing it shows (just through triangulation) is that the ISS is considerably closer than the moon. Again you can try this at home with ease. Use a torch and a little cut-out. Flash the cut out close to your torch and you will see it cross the surface of the torch from a lot of the room. The further away you move it, the narrower the band you can see it cross from. It all comes down to triangles and because the path is so narrow, a little bit of maths shows it must be so much closer than the light source. This starts to put a level of scale on space around us, and if the moon is projected on a dome, that dome is a long way away, or the ISS is closer than they say but roughly the size of a packet of crisps.

I'd love to see a ISS denier give a good explanation for what it is, how it stays up there, how it is always where people say it should be and then go through these equations of circular motion that are used to calculate the position and explain how they model a completely different reality. The best we have had on here is "dunno, might be a plane". A bit of a lame attempt.
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It all seems a lot of effort to make up things like astronomy, build telescopes all over the world, have all the worlds airlines, pilots and shipping companies lie to us
then all the world military must be on board as well

also have all the worlds opposing countries be in on the lie as well , so china, russia and the usa governments all agree to keep this a secret from us all when they can agree to even the simplest of things normally

nasa the european space agency, russian, chinese and indian space programs...all set up for no reason, do the people that work there just sit around and do nothing?

I have been to the johnson space centre in texas..stood by a saturn 5 rocket...saw all the people working there...and all of its just a ruse?


who gains??
I said this about the space race between US and Russia to get to the moon during the cold war.

They must have known the moon was just a projection on a dome and any landings would be faked, yet they colluded with one another to keep this secret from the rest of the world rather than the Russians calling out the Americans as complete frauds. Impressive they did that but quite risky from the Americans.
 
I said this about the space race between US and Russia to get to the moon during the cold war.

They must have known the moon was just a projection on a dome and any landings would be faked, yet they colluded with one another to keep this secret from the rest of the world rather than the Russians calling out the Americans as complete frauds. Impressive they did that but quite risky from the Americans.
Lying is possible therefore governments lie and collude about the moon.
 
This thread has somehow descended to new depths of stupidity. I didnt think that was possible but somehow it happened
I’ve been offline most of yesterday and today, so I’m only catching up on this all.

In the past we have seen this thread redefine light, light speed, space, volume, mass, density, circles, field of view, basic maths, right angles and many more things we just took for granted.

I think we need to redefine dimwit too.
There are pictures in this very thread of a view 50 miles away. Look them up.
You never managed to answer why it doesn’t happen all the time and why only in that place. Why does it never happen across the north sea? Why does it only happen in certain weather conditions?
From down at our coast???
Wasnt even down at the coast in this one single place on earth. It was up a large sand dune, only late evening when the sun was at a certain angle in certain weather conditions.
 
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The worrying thing is there are more and more of these people cropping up. There are entire pages dedicated to this on Facebook and its full of people saying the globe model cant be proven and never has been. Erm yes it has, several times:lol:

The best thing about it is when given proof from respectable scientists they say its fake and ask any random on the page to prove it. Again that will be a no as im not an astrophysicist. And the response is always "Another sheep, believing NASA's lies!" :lol:
 
He doesn't even think the North Pole exists mate so Hadrians got nee chance.
Probably thinks mcalpines hoyed the wall up about 70 years ago.
Tbf, I've been to Hadrian's wall and it's only a few feet high with gaps all over it. Can't see that keeping an army of angry Scots out, and if it did then they must've been absolutely useless.
 

An absolutely brilliant image of the moon. The lads who produced it used equipment readily available, according to the article.
 
Just spent the last twenty minutes enjoying a coffee in the garden and watching the beauty sunrise. Once it had breached the horizon, it’s too bright to look at directly and we’ve all seen the warning about people going blind. I wonder just how strong the projector would need to be and how many blinding incidents there have been over the millennia with people and animals staring down into the place it emanates from.
 
Just spent the last twenty minutes enjoying a coffee in the garden and watching the beauty sunrise. Once it had breached the horizon, it’s too bright to look at directly and we’ve all seen the warning about people going blind. I wonder just how strong the projector would need to be and how many blinding incidents there have been over the millennia with people and animals staring down into the place it emanates from.
Nobody can go there, not even cloud
 
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