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Put a flat earthier into space

DaveH said:
Ok, so thinking of how a projector in a planetarium works, that is exactly what I was doing. Older ones had slides that showed fixed images of the heavens. These were put in front of a source of light, shone through a lens and that lens adjusted until it achieved focus on a screen - in this case a curved planetarium roof.

Modern planetariums are more advanced and display moving images. This works like any other video projector. You have a light source, a LCD screen and then a lens. The image is changed on the LCD screen and focused on the planetarium dome roof.

So what you are suggesting here is that somewhere in the core of the earth there is a tiny image of Jupiter with it's swirling storms, transiting moons etc that is constantly changing. This must be clear for the light to shine through and project, so this is held suspended in some sort of glass cell and some force within drives the ever changing surface we see. There are similar ones for the other planets. Light shines from the inner earth core through these, through a crystal lens and because the dome is not a perfect hemisphere, this lens constantly adjusts it's shape as well as the direction it is facing to absolutely make sure that Jupiter is always in focus. We don't have a time of the day or year where known as blurred Jupiter time where this focus mechanism fails, it just moves around independently projecting on the dome, supporting this image in it's glass cell and adjusting focus perfectly as it goes.

If that is wrong, can you explain exactly how this could possibly work?
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Take a look at some of them and it may offer you more of a clue as to what I'm saying.

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Nukehasslefan said:
Something projected from Earth's centre just like the moon image and whatnot.


Considering the energy comes from the centre (in my view) then everything in the sky that is not man-made is also being projected.
Think back to the planetarium setup you see in many places.

In a similar way to how the projector works on a planetarium setup.

That depends on what you deem as a massive distance.
This is Earth and we're talking about projection from the centre to the sky dome.


Likely nowhere near a perfect hemisphere and also dome changes as I explained before in terms of how it breathes or appears to as the energy passes over and around it.

You're seeing points of light.
To think you can see lightyear stars with a telescope should be massively questioned.


Of course. There will be many many many crystals and variations of large gemstones as we know them.


Stars are points of light. If you want you can liken them to the points of fibre optics in terms of laser-like and also, as I said about the centre, whatever is moving about in it and projected. A whole variation.

What happens in movement is coming from the centre.
The projection onto the done reflects that movement and your vision of it between atmospheric changes.

No, it doesn't have to be a perfect hemisphere.
A dome covering a concave circle with the central mound as I explained before.
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Sky dome🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
BigPete said:
@Kevj Will need to get the banana and toilet roll out again.

I'm sure it's all just a wind up though nobody can be that stupid or ignorant. Especially when has been given examples and explanations by people clearly more educated in the field.
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people can believe all sorts of stuff when they have been brainwashed
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Take a look at some of them and it may offer you more of a clue as to what I'm saying.

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Show one that can project the entire sky all at once.
Show one that can project and explain the path the sun would have to take across your lemon squeezer/bowl/flat but not flat plane.
Then tell us again how all that projector tech came into being naturally or otherwise.
 

How to Find Direction Using the Sun and Stars​


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Editor’s note: The following excerpt was taken from FM 21-76: Survival Evasion and Escape, an Army field manual published in 1968.

Guiding by Sun and Stars​

1. Finding Direction by Day​


(1) If you do not have a compass, you can use the sun to find approximate true north (and from north, any other direction). The method explained below can be used any time the sun is bright enough for a stick placed in the ground to cast a shadow (fig. 2-2).
(a) Steps to follow. Find a fairly straight stick about 1 meter long and follow these steps:
  • Step 1: Push the stick into the ground at a fairly level, brush-free spot where a distinct shadow will be cast. The stick need not be vertical; inclining to obtain a more convenient shadow, in size or direction, does not impair the accuracy of the shadow-tip method.
  • Step 2: Mark the shadow tip with a small peg, stick, stone, twig, your finger, hole in the snow, or other means. Wait until the shadow tip moves a few inches — using a 1 meter stick, 10 to 15 minutes should be sufficient.
  • Step 3: Mark the new position of the shadow tip.
  • Step 4: Draw a straight line from the first rock to the second rock and extend it about a foot past the second rock.
  • Step 5: Stand with the toe of the left foot at the first rock and the toe of the right at the end of the line you drew.

(b) You are now facing north. Find other directions by recalling their relation to north. To mark directions on the ground (as for the purpose of orienting others), draw a line across the first line, forming a cross and mark the directions.
(c) Basic rule of direction. If you are ever uncertain of whether to place the left or the right foot on the first rock (see Step 5 above), remember this basic rule for telling East from West:
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west (but rarely due east and due west). The shadow tip moves just the opposite. Therefore, the first shadow tip mark is always in the west direction and the second mark in the east direction, EVERYWHERE on earth.

(2) An ordinary watch can be used to determine the approximate true north (fig. 2-3). In the North Temperate Zone only, the hour hand is pointed toward the sun. A north-south line can be found midway between the hour hand and 12 o’clock. This applies to standard time. For daylight saving time, the north-south line is found midway between the hour hand and 1 o’clock. If there is any doubt as to which end of the line is north, remember that the sun is in the north, remember that the sun is in the eastern part of the sky before noon and in the western part in the afternoon. The watch may also be used to determine direction in the South Temperate Zone. However, it is used a bit differently. Twelve o’clock is pointed toward the sun, and halfway between 12 o’clock and the hour hand will be a north-south line. If on daylight saving time, the north-south line lies midway between the hour hand and 1 o’clock. The temperate zones extend from latitude 23 1/2° to 66 1/2° in both hemispheres. On cloudy days, place a stick at the center of the watch and hold it so that the shadow of the stick falls along the hour hand.





Try this on a sunny day. This obviously wouldn't work in a dome.

So if a flat earther gets lost he stays lost as science doesn't help. f***ing idiots the lot of them
 
billybumbler said:

How to Find Direction Using the Sun and Stars​


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Editor’s note: The following excerpt was taken from FM 21-76: Survival Evasion and Escape, an Army field manual published in 1968.

Guiding by Sun and Stars​

1. Finding Direction by Day​


(1) If you do not have a compass, you can use the sun to find approximate true north (and from north, any other direction). The method explained below can be used any time the sun is bright enough for a stick placed in the ground to cast a shadow (fig. 2-2).
(a) Steps to follow. Find a fairly straight stick about 1 meter long and follow these steps:
  • Step 1: Push the stick into the ground at a fairly level, brush-free spot where a distinct shadow will be cast. The stick need not be vertical; inclining to obtain a more convenient shadow, in size or direction, does not impair the accuracy of the shadow-tip method.
  • Step 2: Mark the shadow tip with a small peg, stick, stone, twig, your finger, hole in the snow, or other means. Wait until the shadow tip moves a few inches — using a 1 meter stick, 10 to 15 minutes should be sufficient.
  • Step 3: Mark the new position of the shadow tip.
  • Step 4: Draw a straight line from the first rock to the second rock and extend it about a foot past the second rock.
  • Step 5: Stand with the toe of the left foot at the first rock and the toe of the right at the end of the line you drew.

(b) You are now facing north. Find other directions by recalling their relation to north. To mark directions on the ground (as for the purpose of orienting others), draw a line across the first line, forming a cross and mark the directions.
(c) Basic rule of direction. If you are ever uncertain of whether to place the left or the right foot on the first rock (see Step 5 above), remember this basic rule for telling East from West:
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west (but rarely due east and due west). The shadow tip moves just the opposite. Therefore, the first shadow tip mark is always in the west direction and the second mark in the east direction, EVERYWHERE on earth.

(2) An ordinary watch can be used to determine the approximate true north (fig. 2-3). In the North Temperate Zone only, the hour hand is pointed toward the sun. A north-south line can be found midway between the hour hand and 12 o’clock. This applies to standard time. For daylight saving time, the north-south line is found midway between the hour hand and 1 o’clock. If there is any doubt as to which end of the line is north, remember that the sun is in the north, remember that the sun is in the eastern part of the sky before noon and in the western part in the afternoon. The watch may also be used to determine direction in the South Temperate Zone. However, it is used a bit differently. Twelve o’clock is pointed toward the sun, and halfway between 12 o’clock and the hour hand will be a north-south line. If on daylight saving time, the north-south line lies midway between the hour hand and 1 o’clock. The temperate zones extend from latitude 23 1/2° to 66 1/2° in both hemispheres. On cloudy days, place a stick at the center of the watch and hold it so that the shadow of the stick falls along the hour hand.





Try this on a sunny day. This obviously wouldn't work in a dome.

So if a flat earther gets lost he stays lost as science doesn't help. f***ing idiots the lot of them
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This simple experiment has already been debunked by @Nukehasslefan.

Well, I say debunked, he just ignored it.
 
billybumbler said:

How to Find Direction Using the Sun and Stars​


​

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Editor’s note: The following excerpt was taken from FM 21-76: Survival Evasion and Escape, an Army field manual published in 1968.

Guiding by Sun and Stars​

1. Finding Direction by Day​


(1) If you do not have a compass, you can use the sun to find approximate true north (and from north, any other direction). The method explained below can be used any time the sun is bright enough for a stick placed in the ground to cast a shadow (fig. 2-2).
(a) Steps to follow. Find a fairly straight stick about 1 meter long and follow these steps:
  • Step 1: Push the stick into the ground at a fairly level, brush-free spot where a distinct shadow will be cast. The stick need not be vertical; inclining to obtain a more convenient shadow, in size or direction, does not impair the accuracy of the shadow-tip method.
  • Step 2: Mark the shadow tip with a small peg, stick, stone, twig, your finger, hole in the snow, or other means. Wait until the shadow tip moves a few inches — using a 1 meter stick, 10 to 15 minutes should be sufficient.
  • Step 3: Mark the new position of the shadow tip.
  • Step 4: Draw a straight line from the first rock to the second rock and extend it about a foot past the second rock.
  • Step 5: Stand with the toe of the left foot at the first rock and the toe of the right at the end of the line you drew.

(b) You are now facing north. Find other directions by recalling their relation to north. To mark directions on the ground (as for the purpose of orienting others), draw a line across the first line, forming a cross and mark the directions.
(c) Basic rule of direction. If you are ever uncertain of whether to place the left or the right foot on the first rock (see Step 5 above), remember this basic rule for telling East from West:
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west (but rarely due east and due west). The shadow tip moves just the opposite. Therefore, the first shadow tip mark is always in the west direction and the second mark in the east direction, EVERYWHERE on earth.

(2) An ordinary watch can be used to determine the approximate true north (fig. 2-3). In the North Temperate Zone only, the hour hand is pointed toward the sun. A north-south line can be found midway between the hour hand and 12 o’clock. This applies to standard time. For daylight saving time, the north-south line is found midway between the hour hand and 1 o’clock. If there is any doubt as to which end of the line is north, remember that the sun is in the north, remember that the sun is in the eastern part of the sky before noon and in the western part in the afternoon. The watch may also be used to determine direction in the South Temperate Zone. However, it is used a bit differently. Twelve o’clock is pointed toward the sun, and halfway between 12 o’clock and the hour hand will be a north-south line. If on daylight saving time, the north-south line lies midway between the hour hand and 1 o’clock. The temperate zones extend from latitude 23 1/2° to 66 1/2° in both hemispheres. On cloudy days, place a stick at the center of the watch and hold it so that the shadow of the stick falls along the hour hand.





Try this on a sunny day. This obviously wouldn't work in a dome.

So if a flat earther gets lost he stays lost as science doesn't help. f***ing idiots the lot of them
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Love this thread for stuff like this.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Take a look at some of them and it may offer you more of a clue as to what I'm saying.

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All have man made prepared presentations, produced animations and someone making sure it is presented well, in focus etc.

Is that what you are saying happens?

I asked how this could be achieved naturally with magic central earth crystals. I'm quite surprised you have chosen to deflect from my questions and didn't jump right in to explain the specifics of how Jupiter and nebula could work. If anything is going to win us over, that could be a key thing. It leaves us thinking it is bollocks and that you have no idea how it could possibly work and that might be an unreasonable impression for us to have.
 
DaveH said:
All have man made prepared presentations, produced animations and someone making sure it is presented well, in focus etc.

Is that what you are saying happens?

I asked how this could be achieved naturally with magic central earth crystals. I'm quite surprised you have chosen to deflect from my questions and didn't jump right in to explain the specifics of how Jupiter and nebula could work. If anything is going to win us over, that could be a key thing. It leaves us thinking it is bollocks and that you have no idea how it could possibly work and that might be an unreasonable impression for us to have.
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:lol: Explain how magic crystals work? They can't even produce a plausible map.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Something projected from Earth's centre just like the moon image and whatnot.


Considering the energy comes from the centre (in my view) then everything in the sky that is not man-made is also being projected.
Think back to the planetarium setup you see in many places.

In a similar way to how the projector works on a planetarium setup.

That depends on what you deem as a massive distance.
This is Earth and we're talking about projection from the centre to the sky dome.


Likely nowhere near a perfect hemisphere and also dome changes as I explained before in terms of how it breathes or appears to as the energy passes over and around it.

You're seeing points of light.
To think you can see lightyear stars with a telescope should be massively questioned.


Of course. There will be many many many crystals and variations of large gemstones as we know them.


Stars are points of light. If you want you can liken them to the points of fibre optics in terms of laser-like and also, as I said about the centre, whatever is moving about in it and projected. A whole variation.

What happens in movement is coming from the centre.
The projection onto the done reflects that movement and your vision of it between atmospheric changes.

No, it doesn't have to be a perfect hemisphere.
A dome covering a concave circle with the central mound as I explained before.
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Can you explain when and where you've seen this projector that you seem to think shows the moon and sun?

You seem to think that 99.9% of humanity is wrong and needs to show proof of accepted scientific knowledge.
 
billybumbler said:
Can you explain when and where you've seen this projector that you seem to think shows the moon and sun?

You seem to think that 99.9% of humanity is wrong and needs to show proof of accepted scientific knowledge.
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He doesn't think any science is real if it contradicts his dome world, which it all does, therefore all science is false.

His world has no evidence and you can't test for any of it. He only puts it forward as a theory of potential as to what the world could be. He has no proof just musings and simple experiments like putting a level in a bath to prove the earth is flat.

It's impossible to get to the central light projector because it's too cold for man or machine to approach. There isn't even a 'do not cross' line where people have attempted and got frozen. Alternatively, he thinks if people have got near they all keep it a secret once finding the truth. Thirdly, because all navigations techniques are false and based up the lies about stars it's a good possibility they are not at the centre and simply somewhere else with snow.
 
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