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an all time hard men eleven

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geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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This place is obsessed with hard men
 
France v Italy ..Got to be the Zinedine Zidane headbutt shocker on Marco Materazzi in the 2006 World Cup Final ..if anyone can download that to see ??

Red Card

Never seen out like that since.
 
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Tony Coton

John Kay
Dave Watson
Gary Bennett
Micky Gray

Alex Rae
Kevin Ball
Bobby Kerr

Billy Whitehurst
Micky Harford
Niall Quinn
 
Seen a couple of the Birmingham Six getting mentioned on here (Coton, Harford)
I would add a couple of the others to any team of hard men, Kevin Dillon and Pat Van den Hauwe.
 
geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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Nee Kevin Muscat?
 
For Goalkeeper I raise Bert Trautmann. Not only played on in the FA cup final of 1956 with a broken neck but also received an Iron Cross, amongst other medals, during the war as a German Paratrooper on the eastern front. Politics asside, he sounds like a real hard man.
 
Kenna said:
Well there is also Cana too ;)

Nah Bally was just before my time, I grew up watching midway through Quinn and Phillips time here and while Ball was there I don't remeber him as much as others.

I just say missed out on Roker Park, one of my earliest memories I think was just after the SOL opened.
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Yep I’m 45 so Peter Reid was hitting during my late teens. You can definitely see on here when people quote players of the last 15 years as legends, who far the club has dropped as compared to the players I’ve seen in the 90s alone, they just don’t compare. It certainly feels like we’re building toward something decent now though.
 
nessen said:
Yep I’m 45 so Peter Reid was hitting during my late teens. You can definitely see on here when people quote players of the last 15 years as legends, who far the club has dropped as compared to the players I’ve seen in the 90s alone, they just don’t compare. It certainly feels like we’re building toward something decent now though.
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I mean technically our 10 year stint in the Prem player ability wise is probably better than most in our history, especially if you consider how the game had changed over the years.

But none of them have the personality, loyalty or just presence of many of our older fan favorites. The likes of Sessegnon for example is probably one of the most talented players we've ever had in our history but he won't be remembered in the same way as say Charlie Hurley.
 
Kenna said:
I mean technically our 10 year stint in the Prem player ability wise is probably better than most in our history, especially if you consider how the game had changed over the years.

But none of them have the personality, loyalty or just presence of many of our older fan favorites. The likes of Sessegnon for example is probably one of the most talented players we've ever had in our history but he won't be remembered in the same way as say Charlie Hurley.
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He's probably the prime example for me. He's more a cult level like Arca. Sessegnon, you could see the talent but never turned up a lot of the time and probably would've looked better in a better team. Arca, did something amazing down the wing, got cheered on and kept trying and failing to do the same thing. For me, I've had the luxury of seeing hard grafting play down the wings. Ball in the middle so nobody would go there. Gray and Makin pushing up the wings with Allan Johnson and Nicky Summerbee ahead getting in great positions and switching up play amazing well. Then Quinn and Phillips getting in great positions and scoring boatloads. You're right, it's different football but it was the effort I loved and effort still wins football matches.

When you look back then and we were 2nd at Christmas and finished just outside the european spots, we've not bee close since.

What I will say though, in the middle point of the last prem era, we virtually had an ex-player at every club in the league. It's a shame we couldn't hold onto them all and actually build a proper team.
 
RokeyDokey said:
For Goalkeeper I raise Bert Trautmann. Not only played on in the FA cup final of 1956 with a broken neck but also received an Iron Cross, amongst other medals, during the war as a German Paratrooper on the eastern front. Politics asside, he sounds like a real hard man.
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unbelievable when you think about it , a player, playing with a broken neck different breed in them days , they would be getting stretchered off with a broken toenail nowadays .
 
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