Obi-Wan Kenobi



SAFC 83 said:
Miles more adults watching it than kids. All the kids who grew up watching the films who are now adults are the main audience.

Although the writing for parts of this is an insult to kids intelligence tbh.
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i would stick to watching the original trilogy if its that bad... the vhs ones obvs before lucas kept tinkering with them.
 
chriswallace85 said:
It's clear from the opening scenes of A New Hope that Leia and Vader are acquainted. He then interrogates her on the Death Star. He didn't work it out when she was an adult - why should he when she's a child? He simply has no idea.

There's plenty instances of two opponents not cancelling each other out. Obi-Wan and Anakin send each other fleeing on Mustafar.

They've shown Obi-Wan's powers to be diminished whilst Vader is still strong.

Amazed this needed pointing out on a Star Wars thread.
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No doubt they both new of eachother, but I can't go along with them knowing one another that well.

I still feel it's an awful storyline overall.
chriswallace85 said:
It doesn't. He uses the force to push him out of the fire.

Why wouldn't he be able to use the force against Kenobi?
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The fire separated them both when the droid rescued Kenobi. Vader just stood their looking puzzled as to how he's managed to escape.
 
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Been enjoying it, but I think more for the story and timing of the story, as opposed to the production. Gonna go through the films again in order after it finishes.
 
I bit off topic but...
In the summer of '99, just after Phantom Menace came out, I took my 8 year old to a fair in the local park and he wanted to go on a roundabout where you got in a little spaceship which you could 'control' by pulling a lever and it made the car go up and down as you went round. When we were under way I glanced at the car behind, and there was Liam Neeson and, I assume, his nipper. It was such a weird feeling being pursued around the park by Qui-Gon Jinn an a tiny chrome spaceship! We had seen the film the previous week: my lad loved the ride and the film. They are kids films BTW.
 
BRMC said:
No doubt they both new of eachother, but I can't go along with them knowing one another that well.

I still feel it's an awful storyline overall.


The fire separated them both when the droid rescued Kenobi. Vader just stood their looking puzzled as to how he's managed to escape.
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That well? He hasn't even been in the same room as her this series.

He force pushes Obi-Wan out of the fire, then that Talla woman opens fire (from the high ground ;)).
Bulmers said:
its basically Clint Eastwood's Spaghetti westerns in space which is not a criticism
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:lol: Have you seen the Spaghetti Westerns???
 
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chriswallace85 said:
That well? He hasn't even been in the same room as her this series.

He force pushes Obi-Wan out of the fire, then that Talla woman opens fire (from the high ground ;)).
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Just watched the end of episode 3 again, and it's even more painful watching.

To go from force choking him when the floor is alight, to standing watching helplessly while a droid rescues him from the other side of some flames.

And I was referring to them probably only knowing of each other in A New Hope. Based off this series you'd think Vader would have done a lot more plotting and thinking as to what Leia meant to Kenobi. You could also add that Senator Organa has links to the Jedi, which you would think would lead to death based on the Empires stance.
 
BRMC said:
Just watched the end of episode 3 again, and it's even more painful watching.

To go from force choking him when the floor is alight, to standing watching helplessly while a droid rescues him from the other side of some flames.

And I was referring to them probably only knowing of each other in A New Hope. Based off this series you'd think Vader would have done a lot more plotting and thinking as to what Leia meant to Kenobi. You could also add that Senator Organa has links to the Jedi, which you would think would lead to death based on the Empires stance.
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Why would he? For one, it's Reva's plan. And two, I think Vader's quite arrogant.
SAFC 83 said:
But now Vader knows Bail Organa or Leia has a connection to Kenobi (and probably the rebels as well) that's enough to bring him out of hiding, why? He was in the clone wars with Bail Organa and he apparently didn't think they had enough of a relationship to put Reva's plan into action but now he Knows. Vader would never just let them go about their lives after this.

This show is just a comedy at this point as pretty much every scene is either shockingly bad, canon breaking or ridiculously comedic. Episode 4 is up there with the worst TV I've ever seen.
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Why would he? It's Reva's plan, not Vader's.

It's well established that Kenobi served Leia's father in the Clone Wars. Reva think's she found a connection and takes a shot. Organa is an Imperial Senator though. His missus the Queen of Alderaan. It's a pretty bold move.

Vader's a great character, but he's never struck me as much of a thinker.
BRMC said:
Just watched the end of episode 3 again, and it's even more painful watching.

To go from force choking him when the floor is alight, to standing watching helplessly while a droid rescues him from the other side of some flames.

And I was referring to them probably only knowing of each other in A New Hope. Based off this series you'd think Vader would have done a lot more plotting and thinking as to what Leia meant to Kenobi. You could also add that Senator Organa has links to the Jedi, which you would think would lead to death based on the Empires stance.
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Based on what? He served on the 'right' side of the Clone Wars. The Organas lead what we can assume to be a prominent planet. They're an influential voice in the Senate (not dissolved 'til A New Hope). The Emperor is the schemer, not Vader. He obviously wanted them alive, and on the face of it had no reason to kill them.
 
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Admittedly I haven’t kept up to date with all the films but I have a couple of questions.

Is the young lass the actual Princess Leia that we see in the early films as an adult?
Has Darth Vader always been Anakin?

I’m pure confused.
 
chriswallace85 said:
Why would he? For one, it's Reva's plan. And two, I think Vader's quite arrogant.


Why would he? It's Reva's plan, not Vader's.

It's well established that Kenobi served Leia's father in the Clone Wars. Reva think's she found a connection and takes a shot. Organa is an Imperial Senator though. His missus the Queen of Alderaan. It's a pretty bold move.

Vader's a great character, but he's never struck me as much of a thinker.

Based on what? He served on the 'right' side of the Clone Wars. The Organas lead what we can assume to be a prominent planet. They're an influential voice in the Senate (not dissolved 'til A New Hope). The Emperor is the schemer, not Vader. He obviously wanted them alive, and on the face of it had no reason to kill them.
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Vader was desperate to find Obi wan and would have tried almost anything to force him from hiding and he was the one who knew what Obi wan and Bail Organa's relationship was really like.
Reva on the other hand had a few lines written in a log or something that Obi wan and Bail had worked together in the clone wars and from that she jumped to the logic of this plan. It ridiculous, nearly as ridiculous as Bail going to Tatooine and putting Luke in danger when he could have used his own operatives and army to retrieve Leia or him never mentioning to Obi wan in ten years that there's a being called Vader hunting force sensitives across the galaxy.

Honestly mate, this show is one contrivance after another and filled with canon breaking stuff, just terrible writing.
 
RossTheNinja said:
Just been pointed out that Vader puts out the fire with the force. But then, there's a slightly bigger fire, and he's stumped. He can't even walk around it. It's a magic,plot bearing fire
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:lol: I sorta see what ya mean like having just re-watched the scene.It's definitely a more violent fire second time round, though I'm not quite sure how or why that is.

He can't just gravitate across the fire though - nor can the Stormtroopers get through it.

There does seem to be some hesitation about Vader though. "Obi-Wan once thought as you do"... maybe we're building up to that?
 

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