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Midfield
I hope so.Reckon there'll be a bit of unrest on Saturday?
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I hope so.Reckon there'll be a bit of unrest on Saturday?
KLD has outright lied to supporters on two occasions twice now. Once about having a controlling interest and once about the NDA. He's as shady as the rest of them in my eyes now and it'll take some convincing to shift that in the eyes of me and many fans now.I totally expected this to be the case. I respect them for being honest - he said he’d be honest.
Really don’t know enough about Sartori to worry or be reassured. That’s where the clincher is really. I suspect that he Methven and KLD retain the power and maybe it’s in our benefit for KLD and Methven to be close if that dilutes Donald. Also the board looks largely KLD’s team with the odd exception.
No beef with KLD at all, I’ve no beef with Speakman either. As I said yesterday he’ll have put his plan to the board. He’ll have had a budget. His plan might need amendment but it will have needed the board’s approval so going on at him is pointless in a way. I was scoffed at by the chief scapegoaters yesterday for saying this. He’s the fall guy.
The ultimate beef as always is with the greedy Donald who wants his dollar despite failure and wouldn’t relinquish his power. The challenge is how to get Donald out without ruining our progress which I suspect isn’t in our hands whatever noise we make. They bought a distressed asset to make money and they’re gonna make it.
GG, I take it that RAWA will be stating in the meeting that their members feel they have been deceived and this could backfire spectacularly if found to be trueIts pretty likely there wasn't an NDA. Presumably they hoped it would go away, and now it isn't they've decided to release it that way prior to the meeting. Which will change the line of questioning somewhat but think they'll be in for a very rough ride. KLD needs to front up and attend the meeting now, no point just sending Davison and speakman
Somethihng has to happen and count me inIt might be time for the fan groups to band together and get as many current and former season ticket holders to sign a document committing to never renew until the two chancers are gone. All they care about is money and a threat to withhold it may make them cut their losses and leave.
Treat it as a vote of no confidence in them, and state clearly the demand is for them to go, completely, forever.
KLD is finished here now, no coming back from this. He’s as bad as all the rest.
Trying to say something Charlie? @kildaremackem
Methven is basically an extra vote for them.Aye. He has lied to the supporters as much as anyone else. He has said repeatedly that he has a controlling stake in the club, and can make the executive decisions. That is a bare faced lie. Donald and Sartori together still have control. They don't even need Methven.
Maybe Jim White can get SD on the phone and ask his good friend what's going on.I don't actually know what as fans we can do. Part of me would like every fan not bothering with a season ticket for next year but that then hurts the club we all love.
I fear we still haven't hit rock bottom yet. There could well be worse to come.
I have manged for a lot of years now without any sort of hate in my life. I hate SD with a passion, the guy is dangerous.
I'd need to calm down quite a lot just to be f***ing raging. The fans have had the piss taken out of them for far too long. I've tried to hint that the rumours about kld having less than 50% were true without just giving the breakdown like some others did and of course some just accuse you of shit stirring. At least it's in the open now and the fans have to decide how to react to it. Should have been made public months ago if they had any respect for the fans whatsoever. The only thing I'll say is that I don't think keeping it secret (or trying to) was KLDs choice. But fuck me he's got to be open with the fans now, tell us what his plan is, what the ownership structure really looks like and when the others are f***ing off.You are a very level-headed man aren’t you GG. Reason why you’re our representative. Bet you’re seething inside!!
Calculated fuckers.
Aye this feels quite existential now. I'm old enough to remember the protests against Bob Murray towards the end, but his heart was always in the right place and whilst we were never going to take the "next step" under him, we were never going to spiral in to oblivion either.
These people are liars (KLD included), and they are in this for nothing but themselves and their own profits. They do not care how far the club slips as long as they are making money. This explains a lot - including the fire sale of the most promising young players, the relative lack of investment, the shortage of staff in the club, the poor commercial operations and ticketing etc.
These people have to go. It's that simple. They are a very real and present threat to the club.
There are a few on here that were rude to opposing opinions and even quite condescending despite clearly knowing nothing BUT....
Let's not all turn on ourselves, there's only one bunch deserve our vitriol.
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The best part of it is that we (should have) a competent manager.what a f***ing depressing week or so man.