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Roy Keane

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Teejay said:
Here’s my concern; if, as we were
Told was the case, we’re trying to impose an identity and our style of play would be the same throughout the club, what happens if the manager they want (Keane or anyone else) doesn’t want to play in that style? Do they just abandon their principles?

Lurching from style to style hasn’t really done it for us in the past, I rather liked the idea of an identity and a more patient approach, building from the bottom, up.

Perhaps this is the sticking point with Keane?
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Honest question, of the other managers mooted, McCann, Lennon, Neil etc, do any of them play a style that fits with what the rest of our club plays? i.e. Johnson's?
 
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The more I think about it the more I really don't want Keane to come back simply because he should steer well clear of this absolute mess that KLD and Speakman have presided over. Between the cowards in the dressing room and those charlatans running the show he'd be on a hiding to nothing by coming back, all it would do is taint the legacy he has here and would give clubs another reason to think he's not worth touching with a bargepole.
 
Maravilla said:
The more I think about it the more I really don't want Keane to come back simply because he should steer well clear of this absolute mess that KLD and Speakman have presided over. Between the cowards in the dressing room and those charlatans running the show he'd be on a hiding to nothing by coming back, all it would do is taint the legacy he has here and would give clubs another reason to think he's not worth touching with a bargepole.
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Hopefully Royston sees a squad with enough about it to win promotion if organised and motivated more professionally than we’ve seen overall this season.
 
Teejay said:
Here’s my concern; if, as we were
Told was the case, we’re trying to impose an identity and our style of play would be the same throughout the club, what happens if the manager they want (Keane or anyone else) doesn’t want to play in that style? Do they just abandon their principles?

Lurching from style to style hasn’t really done it for us in the past, I rather liked the idea of an identity and a more patient approach, building from the bottom, up.

Perhaps this is the sticking point with Keane?
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What's this wonderful style of play we've instilled exactly? Pile forward like a bunch of little schoolboys, lose the ball and get done on the break? We're as soft a touch as soft touches get. I'm sick of hearing about our style and this wonderful attacking football we've been playing, 'cos it doesn't fuckin exist.
 
Teejay said:
Here’s my concern; if, as we were
Told was the case, we’re trying to impose an identity and our style of play would be the same throughout the club, what happens if the manager they want (Keane or anyone else) doesn’t want to play in that style? Do they just abandon their principles?

Lurching from style to style hasn’t really done it for us in the past, I rather liked the idea of an identity and a more patient approach, building from the bottom, up.

Perhaps this is the sticking point with Keane?
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Fans at the ground didnt want that on Saturday. Booing when we were passing out from the back!
 
nessen said:
He didn't come across that way at all for me but as we're on the RK thread. Do you not think he's going to provide arrogance in extreme proportions?
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He probably will but as a manager, and having won what he has in the game, he's probably earned the right to have a bit of arrogance. I can't see what Speakman has done to 'earn' the arrogance I see.
 
chriswallace85 said:
What's this wonderful style of play we've instilled exactly? Pile forward like a bunch of little schoolboys, lose the ball and get done on the break? We're as soft a touch as soft touches get. I'm sick of hearing about our style and this wonderful attacking football we've been playing, 'cos it doesn't fuckin exist.
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Spot on.
 
Christ almighty man, the moment that Ellis Short failed to secure a buy out, twatting Grayson was on the road within f***ing minutes and he was still employed by a football club. Imagine being outsmarted by Martin Bain
Nowt smart about employing that duffer like, Im talking process
 
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TDalt said:
Exactly the issue.
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If he becomes our new head coach, it'll be interesting to see how he deals with the players. It could go either way. It's a high risk strategy, I think. It will likely end in triumph or disaster. But one thing we know for sure: life with Roy Keane won't be dull. Although (witness, for example, Boris Johnson as prime minister) sometimes it turns out dull might be preferable, ha, ha. Personally, I hope Roy Keane gets the job, because "sometimes [Joel] you gotta say 'what the fuck' " (Miles Dalby, Risky Business).
 
thecloughywobble said:
An opinion from Ken Early in The Irish Times, who thinks Keane should stick to punditry:

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Stick to what he's good at - as in winning Ken?

Already seen a load of people on twitter gutted that if he were to leave Sky they'd have nowt else to watch on a Sunday. Try watching the actual match rather than looking for videos of Keane to re tweet for likes man.

If all you care about is some bloke being a bit brash and honest about what he's just watched, then blame Sky, BBC and BT for fielding some utterly dour as dishwater personalities - not him for leaving.
 
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Teejay said:
Here’s my concern; if, as we were
Told was the case, we’re trying to impose an identity and our style of play would be the same throughout the club, what happens if the manager they want (Keane or anyone else) doesn’t want to play in that style? Do they just abandon their principles?

Lurching from style to style hasn’t really done it for us in the past, I rather liked the idea of an identity and a more patient approach, building from the bottom, up.

Perhaps this is the sticking point with Keane?
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Same here but is there any reason why this can't be done in tandem with bringing in and/or actually selecting one or two players who are ready to go? We were in a handy spot to challenge with some relatively easy fixtures in the pipeline prior to Speakman taking his eye off the ball. The "process" and/or "project" should be ongoing elements of development for any professional club worth its salt, for us it appears to be the sole concern. We're drowning in a sea of laptops and procedures.
 
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