Put a flat earthier into space

[DPTT]

Unfortunately this thread has become a farce

Some great posters explaining things in great detail and I’ve learnt an awful lot.

However, the responses from Mr Wanksplat are basically a piss take and for me has ruined what was a cracking thread.

Typical f***ing mag

 

[BigPete]

Unfortunately this thread has become a farce

Some great posters explaining things in great detail and I’ve learnt an awful lot.

However, the responses from Mr Wanksplat are basically a piss take and for me has ruined what was a cracking thread.

Typical f***ing mag

Been a very informative thread.

We've all been schooled though so pointless.

All those inventions and applications.. pointless.

 

[monkeytassle]

Do you know this for sure?


How far out are these geostationary satellites and what are their purposes?

From memory about 20k miles. It sits above a point on the earth and stays there so it has to match the spin of the earth

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Point one has been dealt with as pointless.

It has not been dealt with and it is not pointless.
The very important point is that you or anyone else can not under any circumstances provide a working map of your flat/cell based world which accounts for all of the observed, known, testable and provable things dealt with perfectly by the globe model.
The fact that someone replying to you on a message board cannot personally draw a map of the globe is the pointless and irrelevant part. It's a challenge to flat earthers and it's never once been taken up and completed. If you had access to a plane you could fly along every coastline and document the entire flight. You'd end up with pictures that match the global map as we know it.

What is a fact?

The lines you were replying to. It's not difficult.

You and others are offering proof without actually presenting it yourselves.
I don;t demand proof, I ask for it and up to now I've been provided with zero proof but lots of appeals to authority and lots of rants and raves about proof's but none shown.

Water level. It's tehre for anyone to observe, test and repeat.

You are constantly offering water level as proof without presenting anything close to actual proof.
"You cant see the curve therefore there is no curve" is not proof. Measure it properly and accurately and you will find your proof. Not proving what you wanted it to, but still proof.

All you have to do is provide me with actual factual information. Can you do that?

Yes, look at the sky. It's full of the stuff. I cannot however see it for you.

Expecting me to provide an accurate map based on my thought process is pointless.
For me to provide this I would need to literally map the world we live in, entirely.
If you can tell me how one person can do that then explain to me.

So now you're actually disputing the very shape of countries? Are the very well known coastlines of all the world just made up?

I can offer nothing more than my thoughts and why they're like they are.

Well aware of that.

What have you shown me that proves anything?

As above, look at the sky. All you need is there. If you cant see it, it's still there.

Nope. The facts can come from anywhere. But seeing as we're on here then it should be pertinent to here, as it stands...with us.
All we need now are some facts from the global side.

Oh so if one of us presented a fact from a science book, you'd happily accept that? Or would the appeal to authority parrot pop up again?

I have no rule. I argue my corner whether it's deemed mad or nonsense or whatever names are attributed to me by the many who back pat away.
As for providing proof from my side. Water level.

You do apply a rule to anyone who replies though. You do reject anything you think we cannot prove for ourselves rather than accept from authority.

As for you providing proof. Zero.

The Sun, the planets, the stars. It doesn't matter if you think they are huge balls of rock and gas or just points of light, they do show you're on a spinning globe and definitely not on or in a flat earth or cell.

I've explained a lot. It's ridiculed and rejected and overlooked and I accept that.
Arguing that it's not been answered is just arguing because you don;t accept the answers, which is fine but does not mean it's never been addressed.

No, arguing that it has not been answered is because it hasn't been answered. You have said many times that you already answered, but you have no correct answers.
Water level is not an answer and is not proof until you measure it accurately. Then it becomes proof of a globe. You know this and that's why you refuse to do the accurate measurement.

What can you prove from the script you were handed on a plate?
The actor may struggle to act out the scene if the script is not there.

Meaningless waffle. No-one here is ever going to prove anything to you but the whole thread is full of stuff that proves the globe should you choose to look.

Pick each question from the video and relay that to me and let's see what transpires.
If you don't want to then just say and we can cease to argue it.

We know what happens. You get stuck at the first question and rule it pointless. You fall at the very first hurdle.

The oceans do not curve around a spinning ball.

Ok, there's one fact. Fact#1.

What can you offer?

A better fact.
They do.

 

[monkeytassle]

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[The Snockerty Friddle]

You cannot offer anything to back up the global system you go with, other than to massively appeal to authority and like minded crowd allegiance.

Can and have done so, several times.
Explain the mechanics of day and night, the seasons and the star maps without a globe...

 

[payne]

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pesky right angle bollocks here

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

And cascaded right off it, just like it would do on your global spinning Earth.

What magical force would make it "cascade right off" a global spinning Earth?

 

[payne]

What magical force would make it "cascade right off" a global spinning Earth?

stacked dense matter, obviously

 

[DaveH]

Give me an example of how one works.

What about them?

Tell me how that works.

Tell me how that works.

Mine works with any dense mass displacing the atmosphere it takes up which is measured by a scale that offers resistance to that push back on that dense mass to create a man made weight measurement of that displacement, minus volume.

Any chance you can explain yours?

Explain how that works and what you know about it.

Tell me what you know.

How do you know this and how do you know you are not navigating a circle?

What about the angle?

What about it?

Really? How?

Explain what the speed of light is.


Such as?


Prove it. Offer explanations for the above from your knowledge.

There's millions of man and woman hours in schooling kids to adults from many years past to present. What offer of proof is there for the theoretical in that department?

Anything else you want to add?

Look at the state of this post ffs. Answer me, answer me, give me more attention, do more work, give more detail (and then I will dismiss for no reason).

can't what?

You didn't miss it.

So you confirm that the two things repeated below are your two ways of absolute proof, 100% that the earth is not a globe?
1 - put a spirit level on it
2 - look at it

 

[RollingStone]

What magical force would make it "cascade right off" a global spinning Earth?

I've finally decided to cease engaging with him it's pointless. He isn't rational. I tried taking the non scientific, logical, common sense approach but it makes no impact: ignores the question or comes out with nonsensical ramblings. I've tried to avoid dismissing him as a nut case but.........

 

[DPTT]

I've finally decided to cease engaging with him it's pointless. He isn't rational. I tried taking the non scientific, logical, common sense approach but it makes no impact: ignores the question or comes out with nonsensical ramblings. I've tried to avoid dismissing him as a nut case but.........

It’s basically come down to unless you can physically do everything yourself :-

Design your own rocket
Build own rocket
Fly own rocket
Map the world yourself
Build own stars
Etc

Then it’s all bulshit

 

[payne]

Look at the state of this post ffs. Answer me, answer me, give me more attention, do more work, give more detail (and then I will dismiss for no reason).

So you confirm that the two things repeated below are your two ways of absolute proof, 100% that the earth is not a globe?
1 - put a spirit level on it
2 - look at it

It's not even about the shape of the world at this point. He thinks fundamental science and maths is all wrong at every level. He doesn't believe anyone knows anything other than himself. No critical thinkers out there out of the 7 billion apart from himself.

He's also a massive cop out artist. Thinks everyone is thick or a liar but wants them to provide proof but him who doesn't understand anything can present crazy stuff with no need to back it up because he has the ridiculous 'not offing as fact' defence.

He's a classic example of someone who thinks an opinion is equal to an actual testable fact. 1+1 is 3 because I said it is.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Give me an example of how one works.

What about them?

Tell me how that works.

Tell me how that works.

Mine works with any dense mass displacing the atmosphere it takes up which is measured by a scale that offers resistance to that push back on that dense mass to create a man made weight measurement of that displacement, minus volume.

Any chance you can explain yours?

Explain how that works and what you know about it.

Tell me what you know.

How do you know this and how do you know you are not navigating a circle?

What about the angle?

What about it?

Really? How?

Explain what the speed of light is.


Such as?


Prove it. Offer explanations for the above from your knowledge.

There's millions of man and woman hours in schooling kids to adults from many years past to present. What offer of proof is there for the theoretical in that department?

Anything else you want to add?

Shameful. Deflection and distraction.

 

[Roman maroni]

It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, it's impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.

 

[Nobby]

Mine works with any dense mass displacing the atmosphere it takes up which is measured by a scale that offers resistance to that push back on that dense mass to create a man made weight measurement of that displacement, minus volume.

Jesus Christ, that made my eyes hurt

 

[What A Waster]

Jesus Christ, that made my eyes hurt

Just total bollocks isn't it?

 

[Nobby]

Just total bollocks isn't it?

Yup

Nobby said:
"What are molecules of atmosphere?"
Answer "What we are part of."

This little gem got lost in the noise.

It appears we are part of a new chemistry where humans are chemically bonded with the gases of the atmosphere to form a new compound of "atmosphere".

Not sure how that works. All the biochemistry I did at university was obviously just lies.

Or it could be just some shite from his random word generator

 

[Kevj]

Or it could be just some shite from his random word generator

I was tempted to get one of those online sound board generators and put the standard responses from him onto the buttons then post the image on here. Then thought he isn’t worth the hassle.

 

[Ambivalent Dave]

Ok, now a counter point.
Can any of you provide a scale map of your world without the aid of those who schooled the current one into you?

My guess is, you can't, so I'd say question 1 is absolutely pointless.

Question 2?

This is weird. Can you type the above without the use of the English language that has been schooled into you?