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Put a flat earthier into space


Nukehasslefan said:
Take a look at the moon from our vantage point. Lit up like a beacon, right?
A bid circle in that sky as bright as anything.
One face we see and never another.
Earth apparently 4 times the size of it and yet we get a photo like that.

Makes absolutely no sense. It is utter nonsense.
If men apparently landed on that moon or even orbited it like we're told in this picture, then the Earth would be massive to look at not looking like that if it was supposedly 4 times bigger.

Not to mention those so called astronauts would be lit up like beacons.....but anyway.
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Nukehasslefan said:
Credible for what?
The info provided is taken from the schooling not from actually knowing facts.
You think it's credible because that's what you follow.I understand that, like I said.
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This is case in point. Everything which has been provided to you isn’t the musings of a single man, nor is it something which has been made up to repress the masses.
It’s tests which have taken place, then taken place by others and the results correlate. All of your theories don’t work in isolation, let alone in conjunction with other parts of your own model. Then when asked to provide justification for any part of your postings you deflect any real response as you know you’d get caught out.

Nukehasslefan said:
Do I agree with what who said?
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Nukehasslefan said:
How about you relay the points to me. If not then we'll leave it at that.
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Just like that. Zero ability to construct a credible counter argument. And before you roll out your usual bullshit response, no, I don’t have to justify what is accepted as normal physics because this has been provided to you many times over.
The onus is on you to persuade me and everyone else in the world that there’s even a tiny amount of fact in any one of your theories.
 
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Kevj said:
This is case in point. Everything which has been provided to you isn’t the musings of a single man, nor is it something which has been made up to repress the masses.
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Absolutely. It is the accumulation by schooling, of the masses, by peer pressure, to this very day.
Kevj said:
It’s tests which have taken place, then taken place by others and the results correlate.
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What results correlate? Bear in mind what we're arguing.
Kevj said:
All of your theories don’t work in isolation, let alone in conjunction with other parts of your own model.
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All my theories are just that.
For me to pride overall reality to them I would need to get physical verification.
I can't offer that.
You cannot offer anything to back up the global system you go with, other than to massively appeal to authority and like minded crowd allegiance.
Kevj said:
Then when asked to provide justification for any part of your postings you deflect any real response as you know you’d get caught out.
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I don;t feel caught out on anything and it's been going on a while.
I answer what I can and if that's not good enough then new ways need to be offered to be more realistic in approach.
Kevj said:
Zero ability to construct a credible counter argument.
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Just try a bit harder.
Kevj said:
And before you roll out your usual bullshit response, no, I don’t have to justify what is accepted as normal physics because this has been provided to you many times over.
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Then you have nothing.
DPTT said:
No you said “cascading” off and I don’t understand what you mean so can you explain in more detail please🤷‍♂️
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No.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Absolutely. It is the accumulation by schooling, of the masses, by peer pressure, to this very day.

What results correlate? Bear in mind what we're arguing.

All my theories are just that.
For me to pride overall reality to them I would need to get physical verification.
I can't offer that.
You cannot offer anything to back up the global system you go with, other than to massively appeal to authority and like minded crowd allegiance.

I don;t feel caught out on anything and it's been going on a while.
I answer what I can and if that's not good enough then new ways need to be offered to be more realistic in approach.

Just try a bit harder.

Then you have nothing.

No.
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Because you can’t 👍
 
Nukehasslefan said:
So what are you relying on?

I'm not asking you to do anything.
You offer your proof's and I call them out and ask you to show me.
You provide zero proof but many words.

I've explained many ways for you to find that out. You refusing to do that is down to you. It has no bearing on me.

I can't. I already told you that.
I'm being as real as I can be and as honest as I can be.



Anyway, so you can't measure the moon distance because of an eclipse or something.

So what would an eclipse offer you in terms of ability to measure.
You are under no obligation to answer, obviously.
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Could you describe again how to determine water is flat, because I think I have missed it. The two things you have said is
1 - put a spirit level on it
2 - look at it

Yes or no, have you provided a greater experiment than these two?
 
Nukehasslefan said:
What results correlate? Bear in mind what we're arguing.
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Distance measurements from place to place which are consistent with locations being positioned on a globe.

Weather patterns, jet stream and seasons.

Tides being as predictable as clockwork which are also linked mathematically to the mass and distance of the moon.

The fact that any object of a known volume will weigh an exact value based on its density x the gravitational pull of the earth.

Celestial activity on an annual cycle, such as the earth passing through debris fields on known dates every year which produce meteor showers. The position and movement of other planets which are exactly how you would see them based on an elliptical orbit around a central object.

The ability to circumnavigate a globe by going in a single direction, but also every direction.

The angle of the sun in the sky relative to the day of the year. The length of a day relative to the day of the year. Both tied inextricably to an orbiting planet.

The speed of light and the Doppler effect which allows an assessment of distance. This works at both small and much larger distances within acceptable degrees of accuracy.

Plus many more. And the key point to note here is the above list isn’t just words cobbled together. What sits behind it is millions of man hours in research and development which only works is the fundamental science sitting behind it is correct.
 
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Kevj said:
Distance measurements from place to place which are consistent with locations being positioned on a globe.
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Give me an example of how one works.
Kevj said:
Weather patterns, jet stream and seasons.
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What about them?
Kevj said:
Tides being as predictable as clockwork which are also linked mathematically to the mass and distance of the moon.
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Tell me how that works.
Kevj said:
The fact that any object of a known volume will weigh an exact value based on its density x the gravitational pull of the earth.
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Tell me how that works.

Mine works with any dense mass displacing the atmosphere it takes up which is measured by a scale that offers resistance to that push back on that dense mass to create a man made weight measurement of that displacement, minus volume.

Any chance you can explain yours?
Kevj said:
Celestial activity on an annual cycle, such as the earth passing through debris fields on known dates every year which produce meteor showers.
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Explain how that works and what you know about it.
Kevj said:
The position and movement of other planets which are exactly how you would see them based on an elliptical orbit around a central object.
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Tell me what you know.
Kevj said:
The ability to circumnavigate a globe by going in a single direction, but also every direction.
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How do you know this and how do you know you are not navigating a circle?
Kevj said:
The angle of the sun in the sky relative to the day of the year.
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What about the angle?
Kevj said:
The length of a day relative to the day of the year.
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What about it?
Kevj said:
Both tied inextricably to an orbiting planet.
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Really? How?
Kevj said:
The speed of light and the Doppler effect which allows an assessment of distance.
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Explain what the speed of light is.

Kevj said:
This works at both small and much larger distances within acceptable degrees of accuracy.
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Such as?
Kevj said:
Plus many more. And the key point to note here is the above list isn’t just words cobbled together.
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Prove it. Offer explanations for the above from your knowledge.
Kevj said:
What sits behind it is millions of man hours in research as soon development which only works is the fundamental science sitting behind it is correct.
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There's millions of man and woman hours in schooling kids to adults from many years past to present. What offer of proof is there for the theoretical in that department?
DPTT said:
I know you can’t that’s why you won’t 👍

You are very predictable
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Anything else you want to add?
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Give me an example of how one works.

What about them?

Tell me how that works.

Tell me how that works.

Mine works with any dense mass displacing the atmosphere it takes up which is measured by a scale that offers resistance to that push back on that dense mass to create a man made weight measurement of that displacement, minus volume.

Any chance you can explain yours?

Explain how that works and what you know about it.

Tell me what you know.

How do you know this and how do you know you are not navigating a circle?

What about the angle?

What about it?

Really? How?

Explain what the speed of light is.


Such as?


Prove it. Offer explanations for the above from your knowledge.

There's millions of man and woman hours in schooling kids to adults from many years past to present. What offer of proof is there for the theoretical in that department?

Anything else you want to add?
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No. And that’s not because I’m unable, I’m just very unwilling on the basis it would take effort for you to then dismiss it out of hand. If you want proof, re-read this thread, it’s all there.
 
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