Tado/Nest/Hive thermostat & TRVs

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I've got the Google Nest.
Personally don't find the "clever" stuff to be very useful - but the fully customisable timings works very well for me, it lets me tine tune things exactly as I want. Also the "turns off when nobody is home" feature is useful. The phone app is very good, and fitting it was a doddle - even I could do it!

The one big thing I miss though is room-by-room temperature control. TRVs are fine, but I'm still heating the full house when I'm working in my study. So I'd go for a more smart TRV setup if I was starting from scratch (although really, I'd not have fitted a radiator in the study at all - I'd have fitted an AC system, which includes a heat pump for cheap heating)
 
We have Hive and so far it's been very helpful. Handy for setting when the heating goes off/comes on.
Also great for me as I can turn the heating off a boost when Mrs K puts it on and I begin to melt
 
Started with Nest and then moved onto Tado.

Reason was, at the time, they were the only ones who offered individually controlled TRV's. Handy to control each room's temp individually.

BUT.....not sure they are the best design tbh as the thermostat is on the TRV (of course) so when the radiator blasts the heat out and it meets the temp, it turns off....but the other side of the room is not as warm. Probably needs to come with a little add-on that you stick across the room and it works out an average or something?
 
I've got the Google Nest.
Personally don't find the "clever" stuff to be very useful - but the fully customisable timings works very well for me, it lets me tine tune things exactly as I want. Also the "turns off when nobody is home" feature is useful. The phone app is very good, and fitting it was a doddle - even I could do it!

The one big thing I miss though is room-by-room temperature control. TRVs are fine, but I'm still heating the full house when I'm working in my study. So I'd go for a more smart TRV setup if I was starting from scratch (although really, I'd not have fitted a radiator in the study at all - I'd have fitted an AC system, which includes a heat pump for cheap heating)
I was originally looking at the Google Nest, then had a search online and seen recommendations for all sorts.

Moving into my first house next month, so a good chance to get something properly in then.. Tbf, we're only arsed about having the timings, but then part of me thinks well is it not just worth going for TRVs too? I think we'd place the thermostat in the living room, but the whole of the downstairs is sort of open plan, where there are 3 vertical radiators, so I think I'd only be arsed about having TRVs for the bedrooms but then I'm wondering if it's even worth it at that point.

I'd probably settle for being able to have timings, and it knowing when I'm in and out. Is the Nest capable of that? (Is it even worth worrying about?)
 
I wasn't last time I checked. Slightly concerned we may have caused a glitch in The Matrix.

Or we have partners who seem to be unable to think of other methods of regulating their own temperature by the adding or subtracting of CLOTHES
yeah, probably the latter. Thanks for clearing that up :lol:
 
Which do you use, if you are using any of the above, SMBsters? @Roger can we get a poll going marra.

@PTR any advice?

I wouldn't do a poll because there are lots more options than those and that wouldn't show opinions either.

I have been using a system by Smart Zoned Heating Control For Your Home - Genius Hub for years since it was in beta and it has saved me a fortune as well as improving comfort. I would definitely recommend a "zoned" system like that one which lets you heat individual rooms at individual times, either on a schedule, or on demand, or when that room is in use, rather than just a "smart" thermostat which turns the whole system on and off.

I believe Honeywell now do something similar.

The genius system is brilliant when it works, but I can't really recommend it as I still don't really believe it is consumer ready and ever got truly past the beta stage. When there is a problem it can be a real pain to fix involving reconfiguring networks etc... no big deal for me, but it is far from plug and play.
 
Hive. We have the heating setup on a specific schedule Monday to Friday, and a separate one for Saturday and Sunday. Boost heating option is class
 
I wouldn't do a poll because there are lots more options than those and that wouldn't show opinions either.

I have been using a system by Smart Zoned Heating Control For Your Home - Genius Hub for years since it was in beta and it has saved me a fortune as well as improving comfort. I would definitely recommend a "zoned" system like that one which lets you heat individual rooms at individual times, either on a schedule, or on demand, or when that room is in use, rather than just a "smart" thermostat which turns the whole system on and off.

I believe Honeywell now do something similar.

The genius system is brilliant when it works, but I can't really recommend it as I still don't really believe it is consumer ready and ever got truly past the beta stage. When there is a problem it can be a real pain to fix involving reconfiguring networks etc... no big deal for me, but it is far from plug and play.
How does that work? Does it use TRVs or does it all just work from the hub?
 
I was originally looking at the Google Nest, then had a search online and seen recommendations for all sorts.

Moving into my first house next month, so a good chance to get something properly in then.. Tbf, we're only arsed about having the timings, but then part of me thinks well is it not just worth going for TRVs too? I think we'd place the thermostat in the living room, but the whole of the downstairs is sort of open plan, where there are 3 vertical radiators, so I think I'd only be arsed about having TRVs for the bedrooms but then I'm wondering if it's even worth it at that point.

I'd probably settle for being able to have timings, and it knowing when I'm in and out. Is the Nest capable of that? (Is it even worth worrying about?)
The timing function is great. You can set it by 0.5c increments each half hour for each day of the week. It uses your phone and also motion sensor, so it knows when nobody is in, and drops the temp to something lower.

TRVs are fairly standard in general these days, its the smart ones that cost a bit more. I'm not up to date with smart TRVs though, so can't really comment more. Tado was the only one I knew about, but I'm sure there's more by now.
Hive. We have the heating setup on a specific schedule Monday to Friday, and a separate one for Saturday and Sunday. Boost heating option is class
What does boost do? Seen a few people mention it, but surely its just a "ON" button?
 
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I have Tado smart thermostat and smart TRVs on every radiator.

If one room is below its set temperature it will open the valve and call to heat so turn on the boiler. It takes some experimentation based on your house - my daughters room for example when i want it to be warm all night i found it runs for less time if I run the bathroom next to her room at the same time due to insulation and whatnot.

TBH it seems like a good idea but really just having two smart thermostats one upstairs and one downstairs would have been less of a faff on and I doubt it will ever save enough to cover the costs.
 
Started with Nest and then moved onto Tado.

Reason was, at the time, they were the only ones who offered individually controlled TRV's. Handy to control each room's temp individually.

BUT.....not sure they are the best design tbh as the thermostat is on the TRV (of course) so when the radiator blasts the heat out and it meets the temp, it turns off....but the other side of the room is not as warm. Probably needs to come with a little add-on that you stick across the room and it works out an average or something?

I’ve got Tado

You can stick a wall thermostat in and pair it with the TRV, ive done that with two larger rooms.

The smaller rooms i find just the trv works fine
 
I have Wiser / Drayton. We have the boiler controlled by a hub which is linked to the thermostat. But we added in WiFi TRVs. These are great. We have started with 2, but just bought another 4 for other rads. This means we can control room by room. With us working from home it means my wife is always cold so can put the rad on in her room, rather than heating the rest of the house.
one problem we’ve hit is that the Wiser / Drayton TRVs have a 30mm locking nut and the valves are 28mm in some rooms. We’ve had to order a couple of adapters. Should be here soon.
 
I've got the wiser anarl. Scheduler is a piece of piss and can just bark instructions to google to turn it on when needed as well. Haven't bothered with the TRV's as the cost will mount up.
 
The timing function is great. You can set it by 0.5c increments each half hour for each day of the week. It uses your phone and also motion sensor, so it knows when nobody is in, and drops the temp to something lower.

TRVs are fairly standard in general these days, its the smart ones that cost a bit more. I'm not up to date with smart TRVs though, so can't really comment more. Tado was the only one I knew about, but I'm sure there's more by now.

What does boost do? Seen a few people mention it, but surely its just a "ON" button?

It's a button on the thermostat, or the app on your phone, that will boost the heating to a set temperature for a set amount of time
 
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