HMRC - newcastle city centre

[errant]

I don't know that particular part of Newcastle well so not sure what else it could be utilised as.

I work down Newcastle Business Park and they have a lot of empty buildings.

shopping, just off the corner of Northumberland St… which is what the lower half of the building will be (as I understood originally).

the building going up on the old worswick st bus station is a fair size too, so the city centre won’t be short of office space. Pretty sure the office tower at the end of the Tyne bridge has room in it too… think cuthbert house on the other side is empty too (old tax office from memory?).

as for the business park, having worked there my self for just short of a decade in the 00s - it’s location is neither out of town or city centre, it’s a percular middle ground location. would have much preferred an actual city centre location.

 

[citybythesea]

I think it’s wrong to assume football rivalry spills out into local politics. I don’t think it should, for what it’s worth I think Newcastle is a great city although I only visit it once every couple of years for an occasional night out………..but my focus is how to improve Sunderland. This should be a discussion for the people from here and be free of external influences. People shouldn’t mix up people wanting the best for Sunderland is somehow hating Newcastle……it’s not.
If the whole region is to truly progress it shouldn’t have areas so left behind, because this will be a truer reflection of the region

 

[Redhouser]

I joined the SMB forum firstly because of the footy, and I'm a Sunderland fan, and then went on to the non football Smb forum thinking it was a Sunderland message board. If you have any positive opinions or ideas about Sunderland that would be to the detriment of Newcastle you get shot down. It's bizarre. Is there not an NMB?

 

[citybythesea]

I joined the SMB forum firstly because of the footy, and I'm a Sunderland fan, and then went on to the non football Smb forum thinking it was a Sunderland message board. If you have any positive opinions or ideas about Sunderland that would be to the detriment of Newcastle you get shot down. It's bizarre. Is there not an NMB?

it is weird that people outside of Sunderland have such a vested interest here. To be honest it should be free of interference. People here are rightly keen to improve things and you’re exactly right, having that mindset isn’t detrimental to Newcastle it’s just wanting Sunderland to progress. If others were truly pro-north east region there’d be support for developments here.

 

[Redhouser]

it is weird that people outside of Sunderland have such a vested interest here. To be honest it should be free of interference. People here are rightly keen to improve things and you’re exactly right, having that mindset isn’t detrimental to Newcastle it’s just wanting Sunderland to progress. If others were truly pro-north east region there’d be support for developments here

You're right but we shouldn't have to justify on a SMB forum why we want the best for our city. Sunderland Message Board isn't it?

 

[1more]

You're right but we shouldn't have to justify on a SMB forum why we want the best for our city. Sunderland Message Board isn't it?

It's the self loathing or the wind up merchants. Weve had one of the worst WUM's on this thread, with his childish insults

 

[ISOE II]

Back to the actual building being constructed for 9,000 office staff. I've read a lot of people from Newcastle complaining about it as they're saying there is so many already empty office units in the City and the space could be better used. I don't know that particular part of Newcastle well so not sure what else it could be utilised as.

I work down Newcastle Business Park and they have a lot of empty buildings. I can't see how they're going to fill them, especially with more companies embracing the WFH. We handed 2 of our buildings back to the business park and now just operate out of 1 which is only half utilised as the majority of us are still WFH.

Going back to Sunderland when are Legal & General building their 3 new buildings on the Vaux site?

Boris seems really uncomfortably close to the Reubans too.

Boris Johnson's night with two property tycoons at Tory fundraiser


Boris Johnson's night with two property tycoons at Tory fundraiser

 

[I'm Spartacus]

It’s the same tribal, backward looking posters arguing the Same dull points all the time man. They hate Newcastle cos of the football and they can’t see past that.

I constantly see people who work through Newcastle moaning on fyacebook that the metro has clapped out again. I’m a fan of Newcastle for a night and stuff but hoying another 9000 people right in the middle when the infrastructure is pretty wank is insanity. Hey ho I’ll be retired when that opens so won’t be in the rat race anymore.

 

[errant]

hoying another 9000 people right in the middle when the infrastructure is pretty wank is insanity

You’d hope that investment like this encourages investment in transport infra throughout the region for the benefit of all… I just don’t see where the money would come from as it won’t be central government & the local bodies are already plotless.

 

[Big Jeff]

Parking. If you look on google earth the office at Benton has massive car parks with thousands of spaces. The new one in the centre of Newcastle cannot have much parking. The staff are going to have to use public transport.

 

[West_Winger]

I constantly see people who work through Newcastle moaning on fyacebook that the metro has clapped out again. I’m a fan of Newcastle for a night and stuff but hoying another 9000 people right in the middle when the infrastructure is pretty wank is insanity. Hey ho I’ll be retired when that opens so won’t be in the rat race anymore.

How many times - the entire fleet is being replaced in about a year. The whole thing is getting a £400 million upgrade.

 

[errant]

The staff are going to have to use public transport.

That’s part of the point…

How many times - the entire fleet is being replaced in about a year. The whole thing is getting a £400 million upgrade.

Rolling stock upgrades, no money for the rest of the infra though. Ben can move on from fixing doors to fixing power supply problems. Or filling in on the driver shortage.

 

[West_Winger]

That’s part of the point…

Rolling stock upgrades, no money for the rest of the infra though. Ben can move on from fixing doors to fixing power supply problems. Or filling in on the driver shortage.

They’ve changed the entire signalling system as well as other station upgrades and moved the depot in its entirety.

The driver shortage has been a problem as long as the metro has existed. They train drivers who after waiting a couple of years piss off to Northern for more money.

 

[I'm Spartacus]

How many times - the entire fleet is being replaced in about a year. The whole thing is getting a £400 million upgrade.

Will that 400 million sort out the points, low track adhesion and all the other none rolling stock issues that I seem to hear are the cause for delays when I’m waiting for one???

 

[West_Winger]

Will that 400 million sort out the points, low track adhesion and all the other none rolling stock issues that I seem to hear are the cause for delays when I’m waiting for one???

You mean things that affect literally every railway on the planet?

 

[I'm Spartacus]

You mean things that affect literally every railway on the planet?

So the new rolling stock won’t solve a lot of the issues yet people will be more reliant on it than ever to get to graft.

Aye topper.

 

[the dark one]

Why would they relocate to Sunderland?

Its called levelling up. Spread the wealth so to speak. Other areas in the North East are getting huge investment, Teeside and Darlington with government money.
Sunderland has a huge office development site bang in the centre that is crying out for more tenets, yet hmrc will convert old space at huge cost to stay in a city that doesn't need it as much as Sunderland to thrive.

 

[I'm Spartacus]

Its called levelling up. Spread the wealth so to speak. Other areas in the North East are getting huge investment, Teeside and Darlington with government money.
Sunderland has a huge office development site bang in the centre that is crying out for more tenets, yet hmrc will convert old space at huge cost to stay in a city that doesn't need it as much as Sunderland to thrive.

We need someone to donate a fuck load of cash to the tory party and pay for boris to tan his bloated torso in Mauritius.

 

[Fray Bentos]

How many times - the entire fleet is being replaced in about a year. The whole thing is getting a £400 million upgrade.

I'm no train expert but I don't think the upgrade is going to solve the 2 major problems of delays, low track adhesion and driver shortage.

If Newcastle City Council want 9,000 extra people coming into the centre and a percentage of them using public transport they may need to dip their hands in their pockets and subsidise the drivers wages so they have enough to cover the service. As you've said the Metro is used as a stepping stone by a lot of train drivers to get into the higher paid train driving jobs. Until this is levelled up it will never go away.

This extra cost can't be passed onto the customer as it already costs pretty much the same per day as travelling in London on an Oyster for a much poorer service. Higher costs could push people into looking for jobs closer to home or to look at WFH.

 

[Fletch]

low rail adhesion