Racism at Yorkshire CCC

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

This will sadly be leapt on by the hard of thinking

what’s the old saying, two wrongs don’t make a right?

Thing is though he's made a big story (rightly so) about this kind of language, yet he's done it himself. Will grab attention & rightly so seems he's intent on wanting to educate & improve. Can't just expect it to be brushed under the carpet

 

[Hongkongphooey]

This will sadly be leapt on by the hard of thinking

what’s the old saying, two wrongs don’t make a right?

More like people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

More like people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

Seriously? You think they cancel out and he shouldn’t have a problem with years of racial harassment?

Thing is though he's made a bit story (rightly so) about this kind of language, yet he's done it himself. Will grab attention & rightly so seems he's intent on wanting to educate & improve. Can't just expect it to be brushed under the carpet

I’m not saying it should be.

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

Seriously? You think they cancel out and he shouldn’t have a problem with years of racial harassment?

I’m not saying it should be.

So why use wording such as "sadly". It should be rightly brought to the front of attention.

 

[JL1985]

It’s good that it has all come out and will lead to reform and hopefully a more positive environment for everyone in the future.

However, many will have a less positive view of Rafiq now. Don’t give it out if you can’t take it as one with colleague just said.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

So why use wording such as "sadly". It should be rightly brought to the front of attention.

Because it in no way diminishes what he has had to cope with. People will “sadly” suggest that it does

 

[seaham ftm]

Some people will be salivating at this.

 

[Hugh Gains]

This will sadly be leapt on by the hard of thinking

what’s the old saying, two wrongs don’t make a right?

I think the best take is that Rafiq has raised arguably valid concerns about the environment in county cricket and these concerns are somewhat validated with certain individuals coming out an apologising.

In my book the language used in his leaked anti Semitic messages is abhorrent and certainly can't be shielded under the guise of banter.

 

[mackembhoy]

It also highlights his own point about MV etc where they may well not remember because it meant so little to them. Rafiq probably had no idea that he had sent that tweet 10 years ago.

Not even a tweet was a message on Facebook.

Someone has actually trawled back to find it(twitter you can search for key words so much harder work gone to find these comments)

The ones who are now throwing stones at rafiq are the same ones who said Ollie Robinson should face no punishment for tweets he made when he was 18.

Rafiq made these comments at 19/20.

Again two wrongs don't make a right.

I would also say. The difference between racist comments on social media between friends(albeit wrong) is a hell of a lot different to direct racism over numerous years.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

I think the best take is that Rafiq has raised arguably valid concerns about the environment in county cricket and these concerns are somewhat validated with certain individuals coming out an apologising.

In my book the language used in his leaked anti Semitic messages is abhorrent and certainly can't be shielded under the guise of banter.

I haven’t actually seen them yet. I certainly won’t defend him for it

 

[Hugh Gains]

I haven’t actually seen them yet. I certainly won’t defend him for it

I didn't want to link it but its easily found on twitter.

 

[HarrogateMackem]

Hmmm

You must be logged on to see media items

I'm surprised his lawyers didn't comb his social media. He's admitted his mistake and apologized and will hopefully learn from it. Which is all he's asking from anyone else tbf.

 

[JL1985]

At the end of the day, a lot of good has come from a sorry saga. Everyone should know now what is acceptable and hopefully we can see a better standard of behaviour and more respect shown to all cultures in the future.

 

[Hongkongphooey]

Seriously? You think they cancel out and he shouldn’t have a problem with years of racial harassment?

I’m not saying it should be.

Racism in any form is wrong, shame he didn't mention it earlier that he has also been guilty of it in the past.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Racism in any form is wrong, shame he didn't mention it earlier that he has also been guilty of it in the past.

He has just been made aware of it.

 

[palm 1]

Because it in no way diminishes what he has had to cope with. People will “sadly” suggest that it does

It does put a massive dent in his credibility.

 

[Silly Point]

He's apologised as soon as he was made aware of it, something many people involved failed to do to him.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

It does put a massive dent in his credibility.

It really doesn’t when you consider the apologies he has received already

He's apologised as soon as he was made aware of it, something many people involved failed to do to him.

He commended Hoggard for exactly the same

 

[Hongkongphooey]

Not even a tweet was a message on Facebook.

Someone has actually trawled back to find it(twitter you can search for key words so much harder work gone to find these comments)

The ones who are now throwing stones at rafiq are the same ones who said Ollie Robinson should face no punishment for tweets he made when he was 18.

Rafiq made these comments at 19/20.

Again two wrongs don't make a right.

I would also say. The difference between racist comments on social media between friends(albeit wrong) is a hell of a lot different to direct racism over numerous years.

Racism is racism

He has just been made aware of it.

So he forgot, like Root

 

[Cee Jay]

It does put a massive dent in his credibility.

Only to certain types of people