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Put a flat earthier into space

Nukehasslefan said:
No I haven't.
Every time people have asked for proof I've simply said water level. Nothing to do with a bath experiment.
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Above posted yesterday. Ne never mentioned an experiment with a bath, err ok.

Oh but: Put a flat earthier into space
It's got nothing to with what I'd expect to see on a flat Earth it's about what I'd expect to see with water sitting in a container. A container, whether it's a sink, bath, cup or saucer or even a lake.
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and again: Put a flat earthier into space
don't know how many times I need to repeat this but I'll go with it.

Water level.
Water conforming to the container it is in, whether it's a bath or a lake or a bucket or even water levelling tubes and gauges.

It's all there in our faces. Observable, testable and repeatable.
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Denies he said the world can be measured with a bath as soon as the questions get too difficult, like use your formula to predict the curve of the bath.

He must know he is wrong. As soon as anyone gets close to details, it is all denial, shouting, screaming and backing hurriedly away from the issue.
Nukehasslefan said:
I don't really need to go into that.
But let's use your argument about your horizon. Can you remember what you said about it?
I'll remind you.
You said the curve of the Earth was where your vision hit and it became your horizon. The land or the water. Remember?

So really you shouldn't be going along with this because it kills that thought off immediately.

I can easily bring up stuff that goes against that silly pretence of an experiment but what I bring up will also be cast off as a silly experiment.
See how it works?
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Excellent response that sums up a lot of what I say.

You claim something is wrong, in this case an experiment. But you refuse to say why. Pick at the details and you fall apart. Because when it comes to details, you can't because you are just wrong. I have never seen a rational argument against anything except just saying "arg, it is all wrong".

Then immediately into deflection and distraction, misquoting me in a odd way to get a reaction. Quick stop talking about this experiment that shows water is not level and I can't explain why, lets talk about something else.

Denial > look squirrel -> denial -> another squirrel is pretty much a summary of this thread.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
I don't really need to go into that.
But let's use your argument about your horizon. Can you remember what you said about it?
I'll remind you.
You said the curve of the Earth was where your vision hit and it became your horizon. The land or the water. Remember?

So really you shouldn't be going along with this because it kills that thought off immediately.

I can easily bring up stuff that goes against that silly pretence of an experiment but what I bring up will also be cast off as a silly experiment.
See how it works?
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I'm very late into this discussion and can't be bothered to read through it all so apologies if I'm going over old ground.
It is of course possible you are correct as is the possibility we are all plugged into the matrix.
You obviously spend a lot of time on this. My very simple question is why?
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Remember that when you try to use gravity.

Yes and that force would be atmospheric pressure pushing into the water at the edges if you took away the beer mat. It only has to be out os perfect level for it to be breached.
The beer mat stops this and you could even poke holes in the beer mat and water still wouldn't run out.

Atmospheric pressure is overlooked for a reason. It's because it kills off a lot of the gunk about a spinning Earth and space, etc, so gravity and special relativity is used.

Rockets work fine in atmosphere. They simply do not work without it.
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Did you watch the video I posted.....
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Remember that when you try to use gravity.

Yes and that force would be atmospheric pressure pushing into the water at the edges if you took away the beer mat. It only has to be out os perfect level for it to be breached.
The beer mat stops this and you could even poke holes in the beer mat and water still wouldn't run out.

Atmospheric pressure is overlooked for a reason. It's because it kills off a lot of the gunk about a spinning Earth and space, etc, so gravity and special relativity is used.

Rockets work fine in atmosphere. They simply do not work without it.
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Go on then try it with a beer mat with holes poked in it see how well that goes. Rockets work fine in low pressure situations in fact they work better the expansion force is much bigger hence a bigger reaction force to push the rocket along coupled with much lower drag coefficients. Same as why planes need less fuel at high altitude as drag is lower - though with your demented model the air above the plane would highly pressurised and forcing the plane down meaning it would need to work harder to counterract this force
 
DaveH said:
Above posted yesterday. Ne never mentioned an experiment with a bath, err ok.

Oh but: Put a flat earthier into space

and again: Put a flat earthier into space

Denies he said the world can be measured with a bath as soon as the questions get too difficult, like use your formula to predict the curve of the bath.

He must know he is wrong. As soon as anyone gets close to details, it is all denial, shouting, screaming and backing hurriedly away from the issue.

Excellent response that sums up a lot of what I say.

You claim something is wrong, in this case an experiment. But you refuse to say why. Pick at the details and you fall apart. Because when it comes to details, you can't because you are just wrong. I have never seen a rational argument against anything except just saying "arg, it is all wrong".

Then immediately into deflection and distraction, misquoting me in a odd way to get a reaction. Quick stop talking about this experiment that shows water is not level and I can't explain why, lets talk about something else.

Denial > look squirrel -> denial -> another squirrel is pretty much a summary of this thread.
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Notice how I didn't just mention a bath and yet you;time and time and time again go on about just the bath.
Even to the stage of having to trawl back through as if you're somehow backing yourself up.
You do try but fail each time.
RollingStone said:
I'm very late into this discussion and can't be bothered to read through it all so apologies if I'm going over old ground.
It is of course possible you are correct as is the possibility we are all plugged into the matrix.
You obviously spend a lot of time on this. My very simple question is why?
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Same as everything. If I see something that you don't agree with or believe it's a total pee take then I ask questions on it and will not readily accept answers as truth if they are not backed up.
Like anything in life it comes down to, why.
taipeisafc said:
Go on then try it with a beer mat with holes poked in it see how well that goes.
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Already have. It works as told.
You clearly have not tried it.
taipeisafc said:
Rockets work fine in low pressure situations in fact they work better the expansion force is much bigger hence a bigger reaction force to push the rocket along coupled with much lower drag coefficients.
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The expansion force would be zero in your space vacuum and close to negligible in extreme low pressure.
Your rocket just isn't moving.
taipeisafc said:
Same as why planes need less fuel at high altitude as drag is lower - though with your demented model the air above the plane would highly pressurised and forcing the plane down meaning it would need to work harder to counterract this force
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You're missing the point,. At higher altitudes it's the same thing with planes except for thinner atmosphere. The plane still has a higher pressure below than above.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Notice how I didn't just mention a bath and yet you;time and time and time again go on about just the bath.
Even to the stage of having to trawl back through as if you're somehow backing yourself up.
You do try but fail each time.

Same as everything. If I see something that you don't agree with or believe it's a total pee take then I ask questions on it and will not readily accept answers as truth if they are not backed up.
Like anything in life it comes down to, why.
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But if we are being lied to (which is what I assume you think) on such a fundamental and mind bending scale then surely we must disbelieve everything: medical science, history, its endless. Its a route to insanity.
 
fyl2u said:
If there's one thing worse than an idiot, it's an ignorant idiot.

If there's one thing worse than an ignorant idiot, it's an ignorant idiot who is bull-headed with his denial when faced with absolute proof that he's wrong, and who flat-out lies about what he has said before.
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He's just trolling you all and doing it well.
 
RollingStone said:
But if we are being lied to (which is what I assume you think) on such a fundamental and mind bending scale then surely we must disbelieve everything: medical science, history, its endless. Its a route to insanity.
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it's what's happened to him all all conspiracy theorists who go to this level. Everything is a lie. Nothing that is accepted on mass is now wrong.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Notice how I didn't just mention a bath and yet you;time and time and time again go on about just the bath.
Even to the stage of having to trawl back through as if you're somehow backing yourself up.
You do try but fail each time.

Same as everything. If I see something that you don't agree with or believe it's a total pee take then I ask questions on it and will not readily accept answers as truth if they are not backed up.
Like anything in life it comes down to, why.

Already have. It works as told.
You clearly have not tried it.


The expansion force would be zero in your space vacuum and close to negligible in extreme low pressure.
Your rocket just isn't moving.

You're missing the point,. At higher altitudes it's the same thing with planes except for thinner atmosphere. The plane still has a higher pressure below than above.
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You have no clue at all, nothing. Perhaps the supidest person i have ever seen pretending to believe something online.
 
RollingStone said:
But if we are being lied to (which is what I assume you think) on such a fundamental and mind bending scale then surely we must disbelieve everything: medical science, history, its endless. Its a route to insanity.
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It's not about people disbelieving everything.
It's about accepting and going with the flow, or questioning what you feel you can't accept.
You can accept anything without proof but it doesn't mean you have to believe it.

If you wanted to believe everything mainstream has to offer then you simply go about life with that.

I don't accept a lot of stuff and a lot of stuff, I do.
Whether Earth shape is in question or whether 3000 ton rockets are in question, life will go on the same.
I take medication. I accept I need it. It doesn't matter whether I believe it could be bettered or maybe I don't need that particular medicine. I accept it just like I accept a lot of stuff.

Life will go on until it doesn't.
Some people just seem to be getting all frenzied about me questioning stuff. I'm simply nice and calm just debating.
The problem is, people follow the pack mentality of " ohhh my word, this person's a CT nutter and he shouldn't be allowed kids" and all the rest of the following stuff.

So here's the key.

If someone lies to you do you forget about it and simply trust everything said from that point on? Or do you accept what's told but hold back on the belief of it?

Have a good think about that when applying it to people in power.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
It's not about people disbelieving everything.
It's about accepting and going with the flow, or questioning what you feel you can't accept.
You can accept anything without proof but it doesn't mean you have to believe it.

If you wanted to believe everything mainstream has to offer then you simply go about life with that.

I don't accept a lot of stuff and a lot of stuff, I do.
Whether Earth shape is in question or whether 3000 ton rockets are in question, life will go on the same.
I take medication. I accept I need it. It doesn't matter whether I believe it could be bettered or maybe I don't need that particular medicine. I accept it just like I accept a lot of stuff.

Life will go on until it doesn't.
Some people just seem to be getting all frenzied about me questioning stuff. I'm simply nice and calm just debating.
The problem is, people follow the pack mentality of " ohhh my word, this person's a CT nutter and he shouldn't be allowed kids" and all the rest of the following stuff.

So here's the key.

If someone lies to you do you forget about it and simply trust everything said from that point on? Or do you accept what's told but hold back on the belief of it?

Have a good think about that when applying it to people in power.
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Yes I agree everything shouldn't be taken at face value especially from people in power! However, as you seem to agree, some things just have to be accepted otherwise its impossible to function. You just seem to have picked some odd things to doubt, Its the balance between possibility and probably. I ask myself is it likely that thousands of scientists and institutions across centuries would have colluded to produce this fake narrative and why would they do it, what's the pay off.
 
RollingStone said:
Yes I agree everything shouldn't be taken at face value especially from people in power! However, as you seem to agree, some things just have to be accepted otherwise its impossible to function. You just seem to have picked some odd things to doubt, Its the balance between possibility and probably. I ask myself is it likely that thousands of scientists and institutions across centuries would have colluded to produce this fake narrative and why would they do it, what's the pay off.
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That depends on what you mean by thousands of scientists in terms of what?
I'll give you an example.
Let's take Earth shape as we're told. A globe that is spinning in a space vacuum...etc.

Ok, so what we have on this theory, are astrophysicists. What are astrophysicists?
We could all say they're experts on the solar system, so we are basically reliant on what they say and also reliant on being harked back to historical times as if it's a backup to their so called expertise.
The stark reality is, they're looking at the sky and telling stories about what's supposedly beyond it. I don't accept what they say....most do because most people have no reason to disbelieve because most people have never really had enough time to even bother to go down that rabbit hole. And who can blame them. I certainly can't.

Ok so what about all the other thousands upon thousands of various fields of science all over the world and the scioentists who study a particular thing or thing's?
Why do they have to be in on anything?

For all we know a lot of them could be massively questioning lots of stuff as being iffy. But what do they do? Do they come out with it and be called mad scientists who've went rogue?

People can argue they would get a nobel prize if they proved different to what's been out out as truth.
Really?
Maybe the truth is not to be told.

Lots on here believe Earth is a spinning globe. Lots will believe those rockets went to the moon and mars and whatever else.
Are they mad? Absolutely not. Do they know they are correct? Absolutely not but they have a very good convincing argument to back up their stance.

What is that?
It's mainstream ideals. It's a curriculum from school days and teachings after it.
Follow the masses and majority wins.
It's correct. Majority always wins by hook or by crook because minority can easily be overrun.

I have no wish to go out in public to proclaim stuff is not what we are told.
I don't want to be the one wearing a sandwich board with my theories on it.

I'm passing time on forums giving my thoughts and that's that, just as people are giving theirs.

I'm the nutter. I'm the imbecile. I'm anything and everything to those who believe they know better. And that's absolutely fine because, as I said, majority wins the day, by hook or by crook.
Majority is immensely persuasive to those who even dare to think outside of that mainstream box of ideals.

I'm waffling on as per usual but there you go. 👍:D
 
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