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Sombrero said:
His ambition was 17th. Im sure the new owners will want to better that.
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His ambition was a lot higher than that, but then your basket case fanbase expected the world as usual. He had a decent scout in Graham Carr who found cheap but decent players, but Rafa fucked him off and bought utter shite for big money to get you promoted and then wondered why he couldn’t offload them in the Prem. You don’t know what a bad owner looks like, but you don’t care unless your fractured egos can be soothed by buying success. You’ve won fuck all of note in over 60 years, I’m actually bemused as to where your fans get their entitled mentality from?
 
UrbanFox said:
Been reading a piece about the very high likelihood of another Isis inspired atrocity on these shores in the forseeable future. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen, but if it does then remember that it will most likely have been ‘facilitated’ by the people who now own your club. Will that focus your mind a bit better?
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Bin Salman is only taking Saudi Arabia in one direction and that is towards being more authoritarian and more radicalised. There’s going to be new controversies and every time there is their ownership of Newcastle will be back under an unfavourable spotlight.
 
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Ryhope_Scalliwag said:
A club is about identity and history. Be it Newcastle, Sunderland, even South frigging Shields, it is about identity and history, and what it stands for.

It goes all through football. Real Madrid were supported and propped up by the Francoist government back in the 40's, 50's and 60's, which is why it left a bitter taste in the mouths of many in Spain seeing what they represented and stood for, a sentiment that is still evident today.

Ajax in the Netherlands, traditionally with a large support from the Jewish community of Amsterdam. Celtic in Scotland, the team of those from Irish Catholic heritage. St Pauli in Germany, the team of the left-wingers, Hansa Rostock, fervent right-wing support. Marseille in France, a high amount of support from the Muslim immigrant population of that city. A clubs identity runs right through it.

Newcastle and Sunderland, traditionally, working class clubs of the people. Been rivals pretty much since day one, but both shared one common theme - they were the clubs of the community they represented. Communities with a history of resisting fascism, resisting oppression, and standing up for what is right.

But in one quick stroke, that club of yours have embraced everything that you have spent the last hundred and odd years going against. You've prostituted yourselves for what amounts to nothing more than blood money. To see people dancing, actually DANCING in the streets wearing tea-towels on their heads, draped in a flag that represents to many, many people the world over a symbol of tyranny, oppression and death, well, that sickens many, many people.

And this is what your lot cannot seem to understand. In the space of little over 24 hours, you have overturned every moral, every bit of humanity that was left in you, just so you can lord it over everybody else, and gloat and sneer that somehow this now validates your misguided belief that you are somehow superior, somehow more deserving that every other club. We've seen it for years, the arrogance, the massive superiority complex, the same misguided shit that has been repeated ad nauseum time and time and time again.

"We've suffered more than anybody else."
"We just want wor club back."
"Yas just divvint understand."
"We're special."

Now everybody in the country is seeing "everybody's second team" for what they really are. A bunch of absolute hypocrites who sell themselves to the highest bidder, flashing a bit leg and making eyes at the first person that comes along with a chequebook. So, they're murderers, you say? One of the worst human rights records in the world? History of oppression and violence towards anyone who disagrees with them? Fund terrorism, you say? What's that? They're gonna buy us a new number nine? We might win some silverware? And then you shrug. Nah, in fact, you don't even shrug. You go racing for the kitchen drawer and pull out the first tea-towel you can grab, wrap it around your head and start dancing, like the performing monkeys that we always knew you were.

You're f***ing disgusting because you have spat on your past. You've kicked your history to the ground, and pissed on it. And for what? Blood money.

And that, mate, is why we absolutely f***ing despise you lot. Because you are nothing more than hypocrites. You bring shame on your club. Shame on your city, and shame on your ancestors.

So forgive me for wanting your little project to go tits up. It would be nothing more than you deserve.
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Someone get that made Gold.

I was concerned when the Louis Dreyfusses took over that we'd go down the same route and it was a missed opportunity to go fan owned, but they've been light touch. They also look like f***ing saints compared to this lot.
 
Slim999 said:
The point is mate - it's our club .

It belongs to the people of the city and surrounding area.

We invested time, support and money going back 100 years + to make it so .

We might not like Saud

We didn't like Ashley , John Hall , Freddie Shepard either.

They were simply the landlord for the Times - it belonged to & still belongs to the fans.

Without them it doesn't really exist

Just as Sunderland belonged to it's fans .... even when you had an openly fascist Manager - who'd nazi saluted at the funeral of a known rw terrorist 3 years before he took the job .

Did you refuse to support your team whilst he was there ?

No, thought not .....
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People need to get over this idea that Premier league clubs somehow "belong to the fans or city".

They don't. An owner could close a club tomorrow and there is nothing the fans or City could do except waves some bedsheets and rattle some buckets.

The takeover going through has had zero to do with anything any fan has done or been involved in
 
Redandwhitedust said:
People need to get over this idea that Premier league clubs somehow "belong to the fans or city".

They don't. An owner could close a club tomorrow and there is nothing the fans or City could do except waves some bedsheets and rattle some buckets.

The takeover going through has had zero to do with anything any fan has done or been involved in
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They should belong to the fans and city. That can only be guaranteed if football clubs are obliged to become majority fan owned, like 50+1 in Germany.
 
DrManhattan said:
Lots of fans didn’t - some fans did just as some NUFC fans won’t support this regime at the club (just as some stopped going when Ashley was owner).

I can tell you one thing though - the local press, NUFC fans and MP’s stuck the boot in with PDC - where are they now?

What excuses are there for the fans now openly shouting down any legitimate anti-Saud stuff on social media (which has been there happening for years without any opposition from the NE).
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To be fair to the journalists, they’re probably shit scared they’ll end up being hacked to death if they say anything bad about them.
 
JJH said:
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Have you seen the clip of some of those replies from disgruntled mags?

The deluded self entitled fuckers are single handedly redefining whataboutery. Disney my arse.

There's a price to pay when you are happy to buy football success with blood money - and that price is to become the most hated club in the country, literally overnight.

They are currently making Millwall look like St Pauli.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
People's minds will be on what happens at Newcastle United, not wallowing nor dismissing any atrocities.
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Bang on mate...

These NUFC fans AREN'T dismissing atrocities by SA at all, they're just supporting their club and educating people about the reality of the situation...

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Binxy said:
No it won't alter anything but it will prove some of your fans actually have morals.
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Morals only come to the fore when jealousy rears its ugly head by opposing fans or people.
Reasoning can and does get made for a set of morals for one thing against another, depending on the severity of the issues being argued.
Newcastle fans would be using the exact same arguments against Sunderland if the situation was reversed. Why? Because the bitter rivalry with some and the seething jealousy with some would rear its ugly head and the old saying of " I wouldn't lower myself" would be cast out far and wide.

I can understand many people being outraged by the owners of Newcastle United but like I said, morals come to the fore as and when cherry picking is deemed necessary.



Binxy said:
You're quickly going to be the most despised set of fans in the country.
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Most likely. When the bandwagon gets rolling and the seething issues get into full focus, Newcastle will be on the end of it and the fans who go to watch and also those who simply support the club in any way shape or form.

Every game we win will have blood on it.
Every trophy we win will have blood on it.
Fans will be akin to monsters because they chose to follow the club they grew up with and continue through thick and thin.
The new fans will be also despised for actually making that choice during this ownership.

So what do we all do?
Do we all walk away and go and choose another club or simply don't bother at all?

I hardly doubt many fans will be thinking about politics of countries if allowed to get on with simply being a fan of Newcastle United.

I'd also hazard a good guess that this same regime, had they taken over any other club outside of the usual rich clubs, would get the massive approval of the majority of fans of that club and would gain a massive amount worldwide if success came their way, in short order.


Morals only come to the fore when it suits, for many people.
 
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Pancho said:
Have you seen the clip of some of those replies from disgruntled mags?

The deluded self entitled fuckers are single handedly redefining whataboutery. Disney my arse.

There's a price to pay when you are happy to buy football success with blood money - and that price is to become the most hated club in the country, literally overnight.

They are currently making Millwall look like St Pauli.
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Not just young kids either
Grown men and some with suits on
So you would expect better
 
Ryhope_Scalliwag said:
A club is about identity and history. Be it Newcastle, Sunderland, even South frigging Shields, it is about identity and history, and what it stands for.

It goes all through football. Real Madrid were supported and propped up by the Francoist government back in the 40's, 50's and 60's, which is why it left a bitter taste in the mouths of many in Spain seeing what they represented and stood for, a sentiment that is still evident today.

Ajax in the Netherlands, traditionally with a large support from the Jewish community of Amsterdam. Celtic in Scotland, the team of those from Irish Catholic heritage. St Pauli in Germany, the team of the left-wingers, Hansa Rostock, fervent right-wing support. Marseille in France, a high amount of support from the Muslim immigrant population of that city. A clubs identity runs right through it.

Newcastle and Sunderland, traditionally, working class clubs of the people. Been rivals pretty much since day one, but both shared one common theme - they were the clubs of the community they represented. Communities with a history of resisting fascism, resisting oppression, and standing up for what is right.

But in one quick stroke, that club of yours have embraced everything that you have spent the last hundred and odd years going against. You've prostituted yourselves for what amounts to nothing more than blood money. To see people dancing, actually DANCING in the streets wearing tea-towels on their heads, draped in a flag that represents to many, many people the world over a symbol of tyranny, oppression and death, well, that sickens many, many people.

And this is what your lot cannot seem to understand. In the space of little over 24 hours, you have overturned every moral, every bit of humanity that was left in you, just so you can lord it over everybody else, and gloat and sneer that somehow this now validates your misguided belief that you are somehow superior, somehow more deserving that every other club. We've seen it for years, the arrogance, the massive superiority complex, the same misguided shit that has been repeated ad nauseum time and time and time again.

"We've suffered more than anybody else."
"We just want wor club back."
"Yas just divvint understand."
"We're special."

Now everybody in the country is seeing "everybody's second team" for what they really are. A bunch of absolute hypocrites who sell themselves to the highest bidder, flashing a bit leg and making eyes at the first person that comes along with a chequebook. So, they're murderers, you say? One of the worst human rights records in the world? History of oppression and violence towards anyone who disagrees with them? Fund terrorism, you say? What's that? They're gonna buy us a new number nine? We might win some silverware? And then you shrug. Nah, in fact, you don't even shrug. You go racing for the kitchen drawer and pull out the first tea-towel you can grab, wrap it around your head and start dancing, like the performing monkeys that we always knew you were.

You're f***ing disgusting because you have spat on your past. You've kicked your history to the ground, and pissed on it. And for what? Blood money.

And that, mate, is why we absolutely f***ing despise you lot. Because you are nothing more than hypocrites. You bring shame on your club. Shame on your city, and shame on your ancestors.

So forgive me for wanting your little project to go tits up. It would be nothing more than you deserve.
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Outstanding post. Sums the whole thing up perfectly.
 
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