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See more stinking mags been on winding people up with their "you're just jealous " shit.

Points gathered all over because of them.

Not one of them will have enjoyed them being a big part, and soon to be out there on domain , main part of 9/11 nor any other disgusting thing they have done but now they finger point at others and blinker themselves as it helps with their conscience.

Anyone supporting this Saudi shite is basically lower than a snakes tit.
 

Ryhope_Scalliwag said:
A club is about identity and history. Be it Newcastle, Sunderland, even South frigging Shields, it is about identity and history, and what it stands for.

It goes all through football. Real Madrid were supported and propped up by the Francoist government back in the 40's, 50's and 60's, which is why it left a bitter taste in the mouths of many in Spain seeing what they represented and stood for, a sentiment that is still evident today.

Ajax in the Netherlands, traditionally with a large support from the Jewish community of Amsterdam. Celtic in Scotland, the team of those from Irish Catholic heritage. St Pauli in Germany, the team of the left-wingers, Hansa Rostock, fervent right-wing support. Marseille in France, a high amount of support from the Muslim immigrant population of that city. A clubs identity runs right through it.

Newcastle and Sunderland, traditionally, working class clubs of the people. Been rivals pretty much since day one, but both shared one common theme - they were the clubs of the community they represented. Communities with a history of resisting fascism, resisting oppression, and standing up for what is right.

But in one quick stroke, that club of yours have embraced everything that you have spent the last hundred and odd years going against. You've prostituted yourselves for what amounts to nothing more than blood money. To see people dancing, actually DANCING in the streets wearing tea-towels on their heads, draped in a flag that represents to many, many people the world over a symbol of tyranny, oppression and death, well, that sickens many, many people.

And this is what your lot cannot seem to understand. In the space of little over 24 hours, you have overturned every moral, every bit of humanity that was left in you, just so you can lord it over everybody else, and gloat and sneer that somehow this now validates your misguided belief that you are somehow superior, somehow more deserving that every other club. We've seen it for years, the arrogance, the massive superiority complex, the same misguided shit that has been repeated ad nauseum time and time and time again.

"We've suffered more than anybody else."
"We just want wor club back."
"Yas just divvint understand."
"We're special."

Now everybody in the country is seeing "everybody's second team" for what they really are. A bunch of absolute hypocrites who sell themselves to the highest bidder, flashing a bit leg and making eyes at the first person that comes along with a chequebook. So, they're murderers, you say? One of the worst human rights records in the world? History of oppression and violence towards anyone who disagrees with them? Fund terrorism, you say? What's that? They're gonna buy us a new number nine? We might win some silverware? And then you shrug. Nah, in fact, you don't even shrug. You go racing for the kitchen drawer and pull out the first tea-towel you can grab, wrap it around your head and start dancing, like the performing monkeys that we always knew you were.

You're f***ing disgusting because you have spat on your past. You've kicked your history to the ground, and pissed on it. And for what? Blood money.

And that, mate, is why we absolutely f***ing despise you lot. Because you are nothing more than hypocrites. You bring shame on your club. Shame on your city, and shame on your ancestors.

So forgive me for wanting your little project to go tits up. It would be nothing more than you deserve.
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By far the best post I've read anywhere about the Mags' shame, both in content and quality of writing.

Is it you RM!?
 
LewisLad said:
Great post but this the best bit for me.

Not going to lie it's been a bit sickening this week thinking about where this might take them in football terms. But then you see them rushing out the house with towels on their heads brandishing Saudi Arabia flags and realise this is just going to be one more, long exercise in them totally embarassing themselves yet again.
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I’ve posted before on this thread… growing up shields in the 90s. I probably didn’t realise or appreciate how big of an opportunity the mags wasted to actually win something with the money Hall was throwing at it.

Regardless of who they signed or stick for being a “Mackem” it didn’t once dampen my enthusiasm for supporting Sunderland, absolutely hooked from going to Roker for the first time.

It didn’t matter them signing Shearer, Ginloa, Ferdinand are who ever… the mags I knew especially the most anti-Sunderland didn’t attend anyway whilst I loved Reidy’s team and players like Martin Scott & Bally.

Point I’m making is, with all the blood money they throw at it they know this time deep down any success they do achieve is tainted and they’ve have sold off what ever principles and beliefs they thought their club and city (for those that actually live there) had.

I’ll continue supporting Sunlun as will be kids and it’ll mean more to us regardless of what league we are playing in.
 
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RedAndWhiteJeff said:
Oh now that’s embarrassing @Geno
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He is beyond embarrassment it seems.

Anyone defending the killing of kids on a bus and castration of gays , to name but two, will not be bothered that hes a mag pretending to be one of us.

Though i do think that's as low as you could get as I could never pretend to be one of those stinking knuckle draggers.
 
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HeaderDownBrown said:
Post in thread 'When Johnson was appointed' When Johnson was appointed

So you have never said you support Sunderland? One of your many posts where you have said that you sad, sad 'man'. You do realise when you limit your account people can still see your posting history? Obviously not....pathetic 😂
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The admin are not fit for purpose on here, it seems if you’re a mag WUM you have to chop a journalist up or throw a few gays from the top of a building before they get banned. I got a 6 month ban for calling someone a prick.
 
Geno said:
I hope you don't get banned, i can handle being told to F off, i'm sorry i made you feel sick. But i stand by what i said that this thread is all about jealousy.
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We've had a nufc thread on here for as long as I can remember. We'll we had loads so just merged them. Why wouldn't we your our local rivals It has nothing to do with jealousy and everything to do with rivalry.

Some people will be jealous I'm personally not I'd rather our clubs foundation is built on good infrastructure and core values so when I've gone and kld passes the torch onto the next custodian it's in a position to thrive. Rather than being built on the thousands of dead bodies/torture victims and disposable income just thrown at the club in the name of legitimacy. What will happen to Nufc when the Saudis have achieved what they desire or the football money bursts?
 
phunboy said:
We've had a nufc thread on here for as long as I can remember. We'll we had loads so just merged them. Why wouldn't we your our local rivals It has nothing to do with jealousy and everything to do with rivalry.

Some people will be jealous I'm personally not I'd rather our clubs foundation is built on good infrastructure and core values so when I've gone and kld passes the torch onto the next custodian it's in a position to thrive. Rather than being built on the thousands of dead bodies/torture victims and disposable income just thrown at the club in the name of legitimacy. What will happen to Nufc when the Saudis have achieved what they desire or the football money bursts?
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We wave flags denoting our history .

They now wave flags denouncing the west.
 
UrbanFox said:
Before you retire to bed can I chip in with a few observations of my own?
1). You’ve mentioned a few times about your perceived “faux outrage” and “jealousy “ of other fans on here. Let me tell you that of numerous SAFC fans I attend with, not a single one has ”faux outrage” or is “jealous” of your new owners. The general feeling is a combination of mockery, disgust, bewilderment and outright disdain.
Yes, let it be said, had it been literally anyone else other than your new repugnant regime then yes, many SAFC fans would be jealous and would have had to suck it up and get on with supporting their own club without any of this palaver. But as things stand, no-one I know demonstrates a scintilla of “jealousy”.
2). You’ve mentioned/challenged quite a few times how Sunderland fans should “do something”. But it isn’t up to SAFC fans to do anything is it? All we are doing is using our own forum to express justified disgust. The protest lead should come from NUFC fans, ;including yourself), as a collective, to garner protest against your repugnant new owners, and then maybe other fan sets - including Sunderland fans- will support you along the way. But let’s face it, have you expressed your own discomfort at your new owners on your own NUFC forums? No? Why not? Scared of the reaction? Not convinced that your fellow fans of “conscience” share your concerns?
You’re a shallow hypocrite. Don’t try and con people with the “football goes deeper” than this shite. Nothing - and I mean NOTHING should override the utter contempt with which these abhorrent new owners of yours should be held. Don’t try and use the fatuous claim of your so- called “NUFC fans lifetime love” to gloss over simple, basic human instincts, because by doing so, just like your pathetically two-faced MP Chi Onwurah you discredit and belittle the cause of humanity and your self-claimed socialist beliefs.
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That’s superb.
However I do think other fans should be active in protests. The fascist Saudi state purely want to distract from their murderous behaviour. The murderous behaviour is driven by their extreme interpretation of Islamism which is to wipe out all non Muslims - and a fair amount of Muslims as well. They don’t react well to criticism - I present chopping up a journalist as evidence, which was directly ordered by the head of the organisation that owns Newcastle. He also happens to be the head of state but according to the Premier League there is no connection - WTF! So if there is sustained vocal criticism and raising of abuses committed by the fascist regime then they will want nothing to do with it and pull out. And as a Sunderland fan that would be tremendous!
 
The biggest surprise and disappointment for me this week has been the attitude of decent people that I know who are Mags.

During the tenure of Ashley I’ve heard nothing more than about zero hour contracts, poor working conditions and generally saying it’s disgraceful that their club is owned by a capitalist exploiting the working class etc. Always counted these people as decent socialists with core values. That’s all been blown away in a short few days as they’ve basically shown me they don’t have values and are happy to sell out to the highest bidder.
 
Geno said:
An Arsenal fans view of the takeover.

"Newcastle fans are excited, and why wouldn’t they be? They hate Mike Ashley, so the fact he’s going to be gone, and replaced by a group that is richer than Croesus to boot, must be very welcome. I reckon Satan himself could rock up to St James’ Park and would be given a warm welcome simply because he is not Mike Ashley. Intense dislike of one thing makes any kind of alternative seem welcome.

I’ve read the articles about sports washing, and honestly one of the most disheartening things about football these days is that the genie is so far out of the bottle this kind of takeover is inevitable. I just think it’s a shame that the people who run the game have allowed this landscape to develop, and that fans who want their teams to be competitive basically have to hope and pray that they are taken over by a billionaire, an oligarch, or a nation state. It’s actually depressing.

Instead of putting in place some measures which at least try and maintain some measure of financial equanimity – something with more teeth than FFP – they have pandered to the people with money who now ride roughshod over almost every aspect of the game. Broadcasting behemoths call the shots at the expense of fans; rich owners distort the transfer market; players and agents capitalise with lucrative contracts and wages; advertisers and marketers piggyback; gambling firms leech off punters with intense adverting campaigns, and we’re now seeing the rise of unregulated cryptocurrency makers using football as a way to sell their essentially worthless $h1tcoin to fans as they dress it up as some way of having influence. Ugh.

This isn’t to be critical of Newcastle fans by the way. How can any Arsenal fan take the moral high ground on their takeover when you look at our club?

Our owner is a billionaire who is tied to the Walton family (Walmart) whose influence on American life via its work practices, anti-union stance, working conditions, and lots more have been under constant scrutiny for years.
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He’s currently engaged in a lawsuit with the city of St Louis over the move of the Rams to LA. One of his companies broadcast a trophy hunting TV channel where big brave men shot defenceless animals with high powered rifles for ‘sport’.

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. And that’s just the tip of the Kroenke real-estate/tax breaks iceberg.

Our stadium and shirt sponsor is Emirates Airlines, a subsidiary of The Emirates Group, which itself is a subsidiary of the Dubai government’s investment company, Investment Corporation of Dubai.

Homosexuality is illegal in Dubai. I love when Arsenal support the Rainbow Laces campaign; I love when the club offers support to LGBT+ groups, because I believe everyone should be allowed be who they are without fear or recrimination, and I think Arsenal do amazing work to help slowly break down barriers and ‘normalise’ things for some of our fans (and beyond). But how to do you marry that with our sponsors? I think they call it cognitive dissonance.

Our sleeve sponsor is ‘Visit Rwanda’. If you have the time or the inclination,
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is well worth a watch. It features the daughter of Paul Rusesabagina, subject of the Hotel Rwanda film, reacting to her father’s 25 year jail sentence last month after a trial ‘riddled with irregularities and evidence of political interference’ according to Human Rights Watch.

Rwandan president Paul Kagame is an Arsenal fan, hence the connection, and he recently made some pointed comments about our start to the season.

Paul Kagame ‘long ago quashed any semblance of democracy in Rwanda, and is regularly returned to power with over 90% of the vote. Opponents abroad have been shot or strangled to death. None of these murders has been pinned directly on Mr Kagame’s intelligence services, but the president has openly said that the victims got what they deserved’ [].

He squashes dissent from media/journalists, Reporters Without Borders say: RPF (Kagame’s party) has recorded the killings or disappearances of eight journalists, and the convictions of a dozen journalists sentenced to lengthy prison terms. In addition, about 30 journalists were forced into exile.

It’s only journalists though, don’t worry about them. I guess he might get along with the new Newcastle owners at the Premier League elites mixer, perhaps taking some tips in how to chop up a journalist who asks the wrong questions. Watch out if your enquiry about the tactical shift under whoever the new Toon boss is doesn’t go down well.

So look, if you have concerns about human rights in Saudi Arabia, that’s a perfectly normal position to take, and it’s certainly much more than a ‘‘ but I don’t think blame or scrutiny should be attached to Newcastle fans for welcoming a new owner. Why should they be held to higher standards than anyone else? Think pieces about sports-washing and all those nefarious associations need to focus on how and why we’ve got to a point where these kinds of owners are being solicited and welcomed.

Obviously it’s not just Arsenal, but see how much cognitive dissonance we have to apply – and we’re not really seen as one of the truly ‘bad guys’. Look at Chelsea. Look at Man City. Look at PSG. Look at all the sponsors and advertisers. Look at how money has corrupted the very essence of the sport. It seems a little bit much to start throwing toys out of the pram now because Newcastle’s owners don’t stand up to moral scrutiny because that has been the case for a long time now in the Premier League. Fit and proper and all that.

Maybe the Newcastle thing is the straw that broke the camel’s back for some people – although some might argue it’s a case that those at the top don’t want another team to compete with due to their upcoming financial strength – but nobody stopped to notice the camel has been dead for a long, long time"
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That’s a great post. But as you are posting it in defense of your ‘ only jealous’ bullshit then you clearly don’t understand it.
 
Drifter said:
Lee Clark on tallsport yesterday “the fans have got their club back”. It’s probably even further away than ever.
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It’s incredible what the promise of money and trinkets does to the terminally dim. Fuck me I’d be horrified if an abhorrent regime chose us as their tool to sportswash them, not f***ing wank about it.
They need to be as toxic as South Africa was in the 80’s. f***ing vile wankers.
 
willo said:
The biggest surprise and disappointment for me this week has been the attitude of decent people that I know who are Mags.

During the tenure of Ashley I’ve heard nothing more than about zero hour contracts, poor working conditions and generally saying it’s disgraceful that their club is owned by a capitalist exploiting the working class etc. Always counted these people as decent socialists with core values. That’s all been blown away in a short few days as they’ve basically shown me they don’t have values and are happy to sell out to the highest bidder.
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Has anyone from the club, representative of any of their supporters groups or the city came out and criticised or voiced their concern about the takeover?

Compare that to us when we appointed Di Canio as manager for his political views tells you everything needed about the hypocrisy of all this.
 
Anyone noticed that pic on Facebook of the 3 drunk mags with the upside down Saudi flag? They hadn’t a clue what the words on the flag even mean and to top it off the middle one had a tea towel on his head.

Thick as mince.
 
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