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NUFC/Sportwashing

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You're contradicting yourself.
actually maybe you're joking? Can't really work it out! 😄

are you saying you're ok with the Saudi corruption but no more after that?
I guess there is a hint of contradiction as of course I don’t want to see Newcastle winning stuff but at the same time the amount of money they are backed by I just hope there is something positive that comes from it.

I’m more concerned with the corruption in this country despite theirs being a bit more murdersome as it effects me and my kids directly. But I am too busy making a living and trying to make my kids happy to do fuck all about it. Me complaining about Saudis in football will therefore not be something I’m going to spend my time doing.
 
99% of them won't give a shit.

I’ve a very good friend who is a diehard mag, he’s also an incredibly intelligent man with a distinguished career in law, he’s now a Judge

He is crystal clear that he is completely opposed to the takeover and sees it as losing the club he loves. I have total respect and admiration for his position

I also have little doubt that he’s in a tiny minority
 
For example Barca - if we offered for their fringe players - Umtiti Coutinho etc they would most certainly sell as they are desperate.

Barca is a bad example. Every PL/La Liga/Serie A side will be thinking the same. Even if they are desperate to sell, Barca will get over the odds for him. If you were Coutinho and Juventus, Man Utd, Newcastle and Bayern were after you, you'd want a lot of money and contract clauses to go to Newcastle, IF they were still in the relegation zone.

So the only way they get their man is by offering Barca and Coutinho loads more money than the others. Hence why it will be an inflated price
 
I’ve a very good friend who is a diehard mag, he’s also an incredibly intelligent man with a distinguished career in law, he’s now a Judge

He is crystal clear that he is completely opposed to the takeover and sees it as losing the club he loves. I have total respect and admiration for his position

I also have little doubt that he’s in a tiny minority
Daughter spoke to her mate last night and asked her what her view is about their new owners thinking that people who are gay should be put to death.

Her mate said so what, we are going to win things so don't care.
 
Aye. She's duped Louise Taylor by the looks of it. Unless the guardian are going to have one journo onside?
I remember years back Louise Taylor writing an obsequious puff piece for Qatar, I think it was, one of the despotic gulf states anyway, without the article making clear that it was an all expenses paid trip. And now this uncritical fawning piece on Staveley which doesn't challenge her bullshit in any way. Vile.
 
Barca is a bad example. Every PL/La Liga/Serie A side will be thinking the same. Even if they are desperate to sell, Barca will get over the odds for him. If you were Coutinho and Juventus, Man Utd, Newcastle and Bayern were after you, you'd want a lot of money and contract clauses to go to Newcastle, IF they were still in the relegation zone.

So the only way they get their man is by offering Barca and Coutinho loads more money than the others. Hence why it will be an inflated price
Even if they aren't in the relegation zone they'd have to pay a premium. Newcastle aren't an elite club, they can't offer champions league football (even if they get Europa eventually it'll do little as its such a devalued competition), so he'd need a massive wedge (and then you wonder how committed he'd be).

This takeover definitely gives them hope from a footballing perspective. There's a chance that IF the Saudis really want to have a top team they could bankroll them. Issue is they're going to be closely watched around FFP, especially with every other club in the league against them coming in. They'll need to do what City did and build slowly. That's probably not easy to do though, especially with the extra restrictions in place nowadays. If they don't get the right people to oversee recruitment etc they could struggle. Again, a few years of wasted money won't hit the Saudi bottom line, but it'll make FFP even harder to adhere to. The ones thinking they'll be winning the league in 5 years are likely being massively optimistic
 
I remember years back Louise Taylor writing an obsequious puff piece for Qatar, I think it was, one of the despotic gulf states anyway, without the article making clear that it was an all expenses paid trip. And now this uncritical fawning piece on Staveley which doesn't challenge her bullshit in any way. Vile.
It is.
I find it interesting though. The Guardian has published loads of anti- stuff over the last couple days and the podcast was very good too.
I wonder if they've decided they need at least one journo who is onside and she's the NE football reporter? Still shameful of her to agree to it but maybe she'd get less access it she immediately went on the offensive? Grim either way mind :lol:
 
The Western democracies do nothing about the Saudi's.

Still sell them weapons. BAE Systems make a lot of money off them.

So if you work for BAE or a company that supplies them, your wages partly come from them.

Do you use Facebook and Twitter?

Subscribe to the Disney Channel?

I wanted Mike Ashely to leave the Club but didn't want the Saudi's to come in.

I've worked in the UAE and they were bad enough and they are almost Amnesty International in comparison.

However, I know I will still get excited if we start to compete. 95% of you lot on here and any other club's fans would be the same in this position.


The reality is that NUFC now have some massive backing. How much is going to be spent is another question. My guess is a lot but there will be investment in the Academy. the ground and some local stuff as well. Otherwise, the "sportwashing" won't work.

Will we be relegated this season? Very possibly. The fat Man U knacker has seen to that. We could be completely cut adrift by January.

If we survive, then I would expect a top 10 finish next season and pushing for top 6 the season after. They have not bought in to this to finish 17th.

If we are relegated then it moves everything back a year.
 
Completely. The thicker of them will belive it when she is saying 'this is all about you' to them.

She's in it for a reason and it's not a love of gravy stained fat lads crying on the tele.

There was a mag on Facebook proclaiming that Newcastle would be the first big club where the fans all came from the City. It was posted by someone that was in born in Stockton and lives in Stockton
 
Barca is a bad example. Every PL/La Liga/Serie A side will be thinking the same. Even if they are desperate to sell, Barca will get over the odds for him. If you were Coutinho and Juventus, Man Utd, Newcastle and Bayern were after you, you'd want a lot of money and contract clauses to go to Newcastle, IF they were still in the relegation zone.

So the only way they get their man is by offering Barca and Coutinho loads more money than the others. Hence why it will be an inflated price
Do you think those clubs would be in for Countinho ? I'm not so sure.

They would certainly have to offer him more in wages, but I don't think his price would be inflated. If those clubs wanted him, they would have bid sooner. It's no secret Barca want rid.
 
The Western democracies do nothing about the Saudi's.

Still sell them weapons. BAE Systems make a lot of money off them.

So if you work for BAE or a company that supplies them, your wages partly come from them.

Do you use Facebook and Twitter?

Subscribe to the Disney Channel?

I wanted Mike Ashely to leave the Club but didn't want the Saudi's to come in.

I've worked in the UAE and they were bad enough and they are almost Amnesty International in comparison.

However, I know I will still get excited if we start to compete. 95% of you lot on here and any other club's fans would be the same in this position.


The reality is that NUFC now have some massive backing. How much is going to be spent is another question. My guess is a lot but there will be investment in the Academy. the ground and some local stuff as well. Otherwise, the "sportwashing" won't work.

Will we be relegated this season? Very possibly. The fat Man U knacker has seen to that. We could be completely cut adrift by January.

If we survive, then I would expect a top 10 finish next season and pushing for top 6 the season after. They have not bought in to this to finish 17th.

If we are relegated then it moves everything back a year.
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Even if they aren't in the relegation zone they'd have to pay a premium. Newcastle aren't an elite club, they can't offer champions league football (even if they get Europa eventually it'll do little as its such a devalued competition), so he'd need a massive wedge (and then you wonder how committed he'd be).

This takeover definitely gives them hope from a footballing perspective. There's a chance that IF the Saudis really want to have a top team they could bankroll them. Issue is they're going to be closely watched around FFP, especially with every other club in the league against them coming in. They'll need to do what City did and build slowly. That's probably not easy to do though, especially with the extra restrictions in place nowadays. If they don't get the right people to oversee recruitment etc they could struggle. Again, a few years of wasted money won't hit the Saudi bottom line, but it'll make FFP even harder to adhere to. The ones thinking they'll be winning the league in 5 years are likely being massively optimistic
Yet trying to explain this to my mag mate at work is like trying to explain quantum physics to my dog
 
The Western democracies do nothing about the Saudi's.

Still sell them weapons. BAE Systems make a lot of money off them.

So if you work for BAE or a company that supplies them, your wages partly come from them.

Do you use Facebook and Twitter?

Subscribe to the Disney Channel?

I wanted Mike Ashely to leave the Club but didn't want the Saudi's to come in.

I've worked in the UAE and they were bad enough and they are almost Amnesty International in comparison.

However, I know I will still get excited if we start to compete. 95% of you lot on here and any other club's fans would be the same in this position.


The reality is that NUFC now have some massive backing. How much is going to be spent is another question. My guess is a lot but there will be investment in the Academy. the ground and some local stuff as well. Otherwise, the "sportwashing" won't work.

Will we be relegated this season? Very possibly. The fat Man U knacker has seen to that. We could be completely cut adrift by January.

If we survive, then I would expect a top 10 finish next season and pushing for top 6 the season after. They have not bought in to this to finish 17th.

If we are relegated then it moves everything back a year.
The fat man u knacker? Bruce? Haway man. He didn't do much worse than Benitez had been doing last season. This season has been a bad start but you've got, what, 30 games left and you're hardly adrift at present. If you go down, even with a potential January spending spree, then the new manager would have done a shit job
 
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