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woodlebert said:
I'd have thought we wouldn't but the lack of any dissent from NUFC fans (apart from the C4 journalist, Alex Thomson) makes me wonder whether we'd actually be the same. I tend to think most sets of fans (at least the core/local group) are pretty similar across the board
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I think we'd be similar tbf. One thing, I'd imagine (generally speaking) older people will have a bit more of an awareness and a conscience around global issues, or certainly more likely to have realised that football isn't the be all and end all. They're also much less likely to be on twitter. So there's probably plenty of mags who are very concerned by this, but we just see the whoppers who are happy to go to the ground in the middle of the working day and those on twitter who like to wind people up. We'd have similar types, but hopefully a smaller percentage!
 

Guinness Guzzler said:
Fair one. They imprison, can execute, and torture gays. Much more palatable I'm sure
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Gays used to get time in this country within my lifetime. Anyway I only skimmed the article but it suggested that the authorities weren't that bothered about it. They wouldn't be my first choice of owners but I have no say. I like you have no say in the UK selling them arms or buying their oil. I'm not even convinced that they are going to splash the cash. Stacey doesn't have a pot to piss in and Reubens might have money but could be as tight as Ashley was. The Saudis are not going to fund 99% of the investment with an 80% share.
 
I have to be honest here and say that certain elderly members of the Indonesian family who own a fair amount of shares in Tranmere Rovers have been accused of some pretty bad things. Involvement in the coup that brought Sukarno to power and resulted in mass arrests and disappearances of communists and involvement in the invasion of East Timor that killed 33% of the civilian population, 200,000+
These are allegations and unproven but if they were proved i would want nothing to do with them. Wanandi is their name.
 
Sam Fender on BBC breakfast in full mag tracksuit saying how great the takeover is.
Saying him and his saxaphone player were outside the ground and the sax player belted out local hero fans going mad etc .

Hmm Sam what about the beheadings? ,anti gay? ,women with no rights?
Some of your songs are about wrongdoings to people and peoples rights...
Yet you support the murderers regime.

A bit double standards if you ask me.
 
I used to work with this German lass who lived over here but went back to Germany a few year ago. She tagged a few of the Newcastle fans she knew on a Facebook post saying she was sorry to hear who'd they'd been taken over by and asked if there had been any protests.

Well, they've been gathered in the streets...
 
Mackem2017 said:
Oh god here we go anyone with any link to Newcastle will be wearing their new strip/tracksuit wherever they go.
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interview in the guardian with him:

"The line in Aye – “I don’t have time for the very few” – that’s the one thing that always going to be my main gripe on this planet, the sheer disparity between the 1% and the rest of the world. These culture wars are valid wars that need to be fought – there’s a lot of bigotry, a lot of racism and homophobia."
 
Hulkster said:
This is a decent article from Shearer, tbf:

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My issue with his line of argument is, I can understand not asking Newcastle fans to defend human rights abuses because they didn't control the takeover, but at the same time there's nothing about the Newcastle fans who are defending human rights abuses/denying the murder of the journalist/getting dressed up and flying the flag of a genocidal nation.

You can't just say don't ask them to defend it and say and do nothing about the ones who are defending it willingly.
 
keybuk said:
Gays used to get time in this country within my lifetime. Anyway I only skimmed the article but it suggested that the authorities weren't that bothered about it. They wouldn't be my first choice of owners but I have no say. I like you have no say in the UK selling them arms or buying their oil. I'm not even convinced that they are going to splash the cash. Stacey doesn't have a pot to piss in and Reubens might have money but could be as tight as Ashley was. The Saudis are not going to fund 99% of the investment with an 80% share.
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Well you do have a say. You could not dance and sing around the ground dressed as Arabs for a start.

Agree with the latter half though... Not sure these will spend massive amounts.
 
Guitar Man said:
Sam Fender on BBC breakfast in full mag tracksuit saying how great the takeover is.
Saying him and his saxaphone player were outside the ground and the sax player belted out local hero fans going mad etc .

Hmm Sam what about the beheadings? ,anti gay? ,women with no rights?
Some of your songs are about wrongdoings to people and peoples rights...
Yet you support the murderers regime.

A bit double standards if you ask me.
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Sportswashing is honestly one of the most effective tools i've ever seen. I reckon if Maggie Thatcher had bought Newcastle or Sunderland in the 90's you'd have fans of that club defending her closing the mines to this day.
 
timeforheroes1 said:
interview in the guardian with him:

"The line in Aye – “I don’t have time for the very few” – that’s the one thing that always going to be my main gripe on this planet, the sheer disparity between the 1% and the rest of the world. These culture wars are valid wars that need to be fought – there’s a lot of bigotry, a lot of racism and homophobia."
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just what i said 2 posts before your original post ,double standards allower!
 
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makumstu said:
In flares in Newcastle, bunch of idiots jumping around with “Toon Toon” every few minutes just turned on a group of students who walked in on a “Where’s Wally night!” All dressed in Red n White Stripes (admittedly horizontal).

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Whoever organised that should have known better.
 
keybuk said:
Gays used to get time in this country within my lifetime. Anyway I only skimmed the article but it suggested that the authorities weren't that bothered about it. They wouldn't be my first choice of owners but I have no say. I like you have no say in the UK selling them arms or buying their oil. I'm not even convinced that they are going to splash the cash. Stacey doesn't have a pot to piss in and Reubens might have money but could be as tight as Ashley was. The Saudis are not going to fund 99% of the investment with an 80% share.
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To be fair, I did mention in my post that I can understand why the mags are excited about it and don't necessarily blame them. The authorities, who could have had a say in it, are the ones I think are failing. I mean, we all know there's a link between PIF and the Saudi state. The PL pretending they think there isn't, just so they have an excuse to pass a takeover, is pathetic. They've let other dodgy types in as well (although these are no doubt up there with the worst, especially with the recent murder in the public domain on their hands) but that just further illustrates the point, they aren't fit for purpose. Your fans can easily say "fuck it, we sell them arms, why should the country do that and then say we can't have them invest in a football club". And fair enough, I take the point. I'd hope I'd be opposed to it if it was Sunderland, but who knows. Enjoy the ride, it'll be good for you to have some hope, in a very small way I'd quite enjoy seeing at least one of the ESL wankers not even qualifying for the europa. We shouldn't be letting regimes like this use our sport and our clubs to sportswash their image though.
 
Guitar Man said:
Sam Fender on BBC breakfast in full mag tracksuit saying how great the takeover is.
Saying him and his saxaphone player were outside the ground and the sax player belted out local hero fans going mad etc .

Hmm Sam what about the beheadings? ,anti gay? ,women with no rights?
Some of your songs are about wrongdoings to people and peoples rights...
Yet you support the murderers regime.

A bit double standards if you ask me.
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I think some of these celebrity fans may regret these interviews when the inevitable backlash starts regarding human rights.
 
Guitar Man said:
Sam Fender on BBC breakfast in full mag tracksuit saying how great the takeover is.
Saying him and his saxaphone player were outside the ground and the sax player belted out local hero fans going mad etc .

Hmm Sam what about the beheadings? ,anti gay? ,women with no rights?
Some of your songs are about wrongdoings to people and peoples rights...
Yet you support the murderers regime.

A bit double standards if you ask me.
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Cos hes a total cock.
 
Said yesterday that, as Sunderland fans this means nowt to us, and I stand by that but...........

These people are basically the richest people in the world, definitely football wise. As a combined group they are worth an estimated £320 BILLION by all accounts. They could have bought any club in the world for what, to them is loose change.

Why buy those scruffy bastards?
 
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