England vs India (fourth test) The Oval

[The Rat]

Agreed. With Woakes in the side is there really that much of an issue with Leach coming in? Let’s face it, Moeen hasn’t added anything with the bat so could Leach be any worse

I’ve tried to be positive like as I like aspects of him but if I’m brutally honest he’s been shite

The last few comments made about Stokes are absolutely unacceptable.

Unbelievable.

maybe. I’m on all sorts for my mental health issues like so I feel I’m qualified to comment more than yourself

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Left arm spinner causing problems, if only we had one

We're not bowling last on though, are we?

It’s definitely doing more for Bumrah today than it has for days. Whether that’s solely down to the bowler or the ball/conditions who knows.

Both, I think. Though the surface is now dry enough to offer reverse. Massive. He has been the best bowler on this deck for the whole game though.

 

[hudson88]

I’ve tried to be positive like as I like aspects of him but if I’m brutally honest he’s been shite

We’ll no doubt have this cycle again where he’s dropped, we have a year without him in the side and then the clamour will return to have him included and he’ll bowl predominately shite, get out with the same stupid shots and get dropped again.

 

[VXi]

The reward for failure will be playing the next game. . . What a complete mess England cricket is.

 

[The Rat]

Whose better though Bumrah or Overton?

remember Overton can hold a bat

 

[SAFC 2012]

f***ing hell ya cant be calling stokes out cause were getting pumped like

Thats bang out of order.

 

[SAFC11]

Allround poor performance really. Awful fielding, poor batting and bowling as a team. Kolhi dropped in first innings,awful bowling at the tail, wasted wickets in 1st batting innings, lack of variation and poor bowling in 2nd innings and frailty shown again on our batting

 

[The Rat]

We’ll no doubt have this cycle again where he’s dropped, we have a year without him in the side and then the clamour will return to have him included and he’ll bowl predominately shite, get out with the same stupid shots and get dropped again.

His batting is unacceptable for the talent he has like

that shot in the first innings man

 

[scotch]

The last few comments made about Stokes are absolutely unacceptable.

Unbelievable.

Be fair now, nobody has said anything is wrong with him missing the series and not playing due to his mental well being.
Posting video games and playing video games when your finger is recovering and England are getting battered is probably not the best.

 

[The Rat]

f***ing hell ya cant be calling stokes out cause were getting pumped like

Thats bang out of order.

don’t think anyone’s calling him out, I just feel for root that’s all

as it wont be taken into consideration when assessing the result will it?

Be fair now, nobody has said anything is wrong with him missing the series and not playing due to his mental well being.
Posting video games and playing video games when your finger is recovering and England are getting battered is probably not the best.

yep just this

 

[dixonsafc]

f***ing hell ya cant be calling stokes out cause were getting pumped like

Thats bang out of order.

Baffling, isn’t it?

Everything he’s done in an England shirt and he’s blamed for our batsmen getting pumped when he’s on leave with mental health issues.

 

[hudson88]

The last few comments made about Stokes are absolutely unacceptable.

Unbelievable.

Agreed, extremely harsh given what he’s gone through personally in the last year.

You cannot place any blame at all for the mental and technical fragility of these so called test standard players on Ben Stokes being missing, no matter what the reason is for him being missing

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Be fair now, nobody has said anything is wrong with him missing the series and not playing due to his mental well being.
Posting video games and playing video games when your finger is recovering and England are getting battered is probably not the best.

Somebody said he was on vacation.

Aye, canny vacation depression is - f***ing hell, this place.

 

[scotch]

An indefinite leave isn't necessary for a finger, is it?

It wasn't healing, Stokes had said so himself, playing through cortisone injections for that 1 day series, he's needed to rest it for it to heal.
Last thing he needed was to be struck on the finger when batting.

 

[The Rat]

Somebody said he was on vacation.

Aye, canny vacation depression is - f***ing hell, this place.

I’ve got depression mate, nobody has claimed he has depression or criticised him if he has

you’re showing a lack of knowledge on the subject

poor post

 

[Voice of fair play]

It’s absolutely staggering that bairstow still gets picked for test cricket.

It’s not like if you look at the other options

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

It wasn't healing, Stokes had said so himself, playing through cortisone injections for that 1 day series, he's needed to rest it for it to heal.
Last thing he needed was to be struck on the finger when batting.

Do you know what indefinite means?

 

[The Rat]

We're not bowling last on though, are we?

Both, I think. Though the surface is now dry enough to offer reverse. Massive. He has been the best bowler on this deck for the whole game though.

you just said he hasn’t been swinging the ball

 

[cooky]

What a superb spell that was from Bumrah.

 

[NorthCountryBoy]

It possibly might mate put been positive sensible positive also opens up our chances of a win too.

I think if we lose a couple of wickets quickly then change mindset, but first mindset should be to win with all ten wickets in hand

Hameed’s wicket was an example of trying to show that positive mindset but it’s probably opened the door for them.

My view hasn’t changed since 11am - we should have played for the draw.