Flat Earthers

[DaveH]

This is why I don't understand why people are obsessed with all of this made up shit like that earth. There is literally a whole universe of limitless, wonderful, mindbending real shit to explore

I read one thing a while ago that they see themselves as a hero type and I can see a bit of that. If you think of most stories, they always involve someone who is that bit special. It might be a magical Harry Potter or Luke Skywalker or a human who is amazing like James Bond or Sherlock Holmes. They all follow the same idea. One person who can do or see things others can’t.

I love space, astronomy, astrophotography etc and I’m fairly knowledgeable about some stuff to do with it. Go on an astronomy forum and I’m way way down the rankings of knowledge or quality of images. I’m a long way from being something special and I can accept that.

Now look at the conspiracy types and how they word stuff. Look through the flat earth and more recently the covid ct threads. A lot of the time they don’t say anything at all but make suggestive threads or hint at something. What happens? Immediately one or more poster replies asking for more. In their head “I am the wise sage, look the follow me”. After a bit it is followed up by lines such as “oh I used to think like you, but now….”, that is self reinforcing of the hero image, while also putting others down. Very few points or explanations are made directly, it is all designed to get reactions but the sort of reactions that elevate that self-hero image. It keeps people coming back while also hiding the details leaves nothing to be attacked in return, i.e. nothing that can deflate that image.

”There is another agenda at play”. What does that mean? In itself nothing, so people ask back. That is usually followed up by other phrases like “gradual erosion of freedoms”, “you can’t see what is happening”. These lines of conversation go on but no point is made but everytime people respond with a question. It is all designed for that reaction. Now if I said “We are never going to be allowed more than 20 people in any pub”, loads would react. Big pubs, small pubs all the same. And is likely to be disproven within a year or even weeks. That makes me a pretty shit oracle, my ego deflated and the thread is short, the clear point has been discussed. Meanwhile the CT thread hits page 20 while people still try to figure out what the hell they are going on about.

If you watch the various CT threads unfold, you will see these patterns. I find it an odd mix of entertaining and fascinating.

 

[Boris Bear]

This is why I don't understand why people are obsessed with all of this made up shit like that earth. There is literally a whole universe of limitless, wonderful, mindbending real shit to explore

Because they need to be debated with rather than looked down upon or they feel like an underdog with a cause

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Who made the dome or you saying it’s natural?

Natural.
To understand it you have to start at the basics right here where we actually live by using what's commonly known as vacuum chambers.

If you are saying 100% we are not on a spinning globe and you refrain from saying Earth is flat then what the hell do you think we are living on

In.

If he doesn't understand what gravity is then he's got no hope with your question

Nobody understands what gravity is because it doesn't exist, in my opinion.
Most people know what they're told it does just by dropping something and are told "that's gravity."
Many people accept that for basically little to no reasoning.

No. It's basic principles of gravity. The G forces are incomparable.

Care to explain it?

It's hard to explain why the earth isn't flat to someone who doesn't understand gravity

Feel free to explain what gravity is.

Do you not think it's odd that water doesn't just drop off the end of the world?

Not at all if you've been reading the topic.

Also how do you explain if you travel East from here you'll eventually end up back where you started.

Going round the circle.
West will do the same thing.

When people who have a lack of intelligence have a platform like social media and influence other people of the same ilk then this is the shit you get.
The world’s fucked.

It works both ways.

It’s odd that you find the water in the seas such a compelling argument against a global earth.

We know that objects behave in different ways and exert different forces depending on their size.

I agree that a lot of science is counter-intuitive, but that doesn’t mean it is wrong.

It doesn't mean it's right, either.

Our brains have evolved to make quite basic decisions around getting food, shagging and not being killed… Not understanding gravity, the vastness of the universe, the quantum level etc.

So I think it’s a mistake to use your basic intuition to try and disprove theories of physics when we have every reason to think our intuition is extremely fallible.

If I think something makes little sense; something which is given out as a fact, then I'll question it.

 

[cosmicchris00]

If I think something makes little sense; something which is given out as a fact, then I'll question it.

I question why you and The Fish are never on here at the same time.

My hypothesis is; you are WUM and the same

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I question why you and The Fish are never on here at the same time.

My hypothesis is; you are WUM and the same

I have no issue with you saying any of that. You simply go with what you believe.

 

[cosmicchris00]

I have no issue with you saying any of that. You simply go with what you believe.

Which is exactly what The Fish would say.

Your serve

 

[taipeisafc]

fish eye lens

That only effects part of the image? How does that work then?

As a general note I find with the conspiracy goons no matter how much evidence there is disproving their deranged theories there is never enough yet they don't seem to need any evidence at all to prove their theories are correct (or they say do your won research). Gravity being the classic one, scientist admits they don't know the exact mechanism of it working although there are a number of theories so conspiracy morons decide it doesn't exist and something else is at play. We have another one on here who reckons he has disproved Newtons law of motion with some MDF and a nail.

 

[WhoDrankAllTheBovril]

Here is a link to a successful flat earth experiment:

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It succeeded in proving that the Eath is curved.

 

[payne]

what I'm curious about is that if a person doesn't believe the earth is flat then it must follow that everyone who asserts that it is must be lying to the rest of society. All astronauts must be making it up, all satellites taking pictures must be a fiction etc etc.

the question i then ask is why are they lying to us. what's the point? if it's flat it's flat. why would it matter to lie to the population of the earth?

 

[No7]

Nobody understands what gravity is because it doesn't exist, in my opinion.
Most people know what they're told it does just by dropping something and are told "that's gravity."
Many people accept that for basically little to no reasoning.

The fact you’ve just explained it as dropping something, confirms my statement

 

[DPTT]

Going round the circle.
West will do the same thing.

This just does not make sense though
If you are proclaiming we live in a dome then surely if we head east at some point we are going to walk straight into this dome?

 

[Baloo]

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[Nukehasslefan]

what I'm curious about is that if a person doesn't believe the earth is flat then it must follow that everyone who asserts that it is must be lying to the rest of society. All astronauts must be making it up, all satellites taking pictures must be a fiction etc etc.

the question i then ask is why are they lying to us. what's the point? if it's flat it's flat. why would it matter to lie to the population of the earth?

Nope. Everyone doesn't have to be telling lies.
Many many people believe in space and a spinning globe, plus 93 million miles away burning sun and trillions and trillions of miles away stars...etc...etc....etc.
Are they lying? Of course not.
But it's very possible that a small portion are following a script and not being honest.

Are those people who tell ghost stories, lying? Most likely believe there are ghosts but some people lie about seeing them, for gain.

The list is endless as to why people would lie for gain.
We all tell lies.
Many would tell lies to ensure they keep their job or to gain extra money or control.

 

[jayjaysafc]

Going round the circle.
West will do the same thing.

And going north or south?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

The fact you’ve just explained it as dropping something, confirms my statement

Confirms what?

 

[Baloo]

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[Nukehasslefan]

This just does not make sense though
If you are proclaiming we live in a dome then surely if we head east at some point we are going to walk straight into this dome?

No because you will simply follow the compass which basically takes you around a circle.

 

[cosmicchris00]

That only effects part of the image? How does that work then?

As a general note I find with the conspiracy goons no matter how much evidence there is disproving their deranged theories there is never enough yet they don't seem to need any evidence at all to prove their theories are correct (or they say do your won research). Gravity being the classic one, scientist admits they don't know the exact mechanism of it working although there are a number of theories so conspiracy morons decide it doesn't exist and something else is at play. We have another one on here who reckons he has disproved Newtons law of motion with some MDF and a nail.

The thing with gravity is, you can see it being proved to exist all around.

The fact that m*g*h = the potential energy held by a static body

Where g = 9.81*m(s*s)

If you step off a really tall building you may even have time to calculate the speed at which pieces of your skull will be pushed through your anus.

 

[Baloo]

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[Nukehasslefan]

And going north or south?

If you went north you would go towards the centre. If you went south you would go towards the dome foundation/gradient. In my opinion.

The thing with gravity is, you can see it being proved to exist all around.

The fact that m*g*h = the potential energy held by a static body

Where g = 9.81*m(s*s)

If you step off a really tall building you may even have time to calculate the speed at which pieces of your skull will be pushed through your anus.

Tell me about a helium balloon and why gravity leaves it alone.
Also an air filled balloon dropped off a building or just from head height.
9.8m/s/s? I think not.