Spanish ex-pats

aupaalaves said:
This is what I got told to do. Followed it step by step and no issues. The 12 euro tax needs to be paid before 10am I believe. I did mine at a BBVA bank. Santander said they didn't do it and La Caixa had a big queue 😂

You need to complete this form (selecting Certificado de registro de residente comunitario o Tarjeta de residencia de familiar de un ciudadano de la Unión. - works out at 12€, which you then need to pay in a bank before your appointment (you'll need the completed form to do this)

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The correct link for the appointment is
POLICÍA-EXP.TARJETA ASOCIADA AL ACUERDO DE RETIRADA CIUDADANOS BRITÁNICOS Y SUS FAMILIARES (BREXIT)
It's the second menu, TRÁMITES CUERPO NACIONAL DE POLICÍA.

Things to take:
*Your passport and a photocopy
*A passport (carnet) size photograph
*Both index fingers (they take prints)
*Receipt to show you've paid the bank charge

I'd take a recent copy of a Padrón as well as depending on who attends you, might request one.
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NO HAY SUFICIENTES CITAS DISPONIBLES

It's been like that for over 6 months now.
aupaalaves said:
Can't you just go to the town hall, wait in line and ask for one? 🤔 That's how it works here.

If the address on your green card is the same address as now then I don't think you'd need a Padrón. It's probably for those that have had a change of address.

I got told to take one because a friend was asked for it but I wasn't.
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Nah, it used to be easy. The last time before Covid, I had to wait months for a padrón appointment. The Mrs is from Elda. Maybe I'd be better getting in done there in the summer. Not the padrón the tie. I even signed up for the digital signature thing. But can't get the padrón their either.
 
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alicante mackem said:
NO HAY SUFICIENTES CITAS DISPONIBLES

It's been like that for over 6 months now.

Nah, it used to be easy. The last time before Covid, I had to wait months for a padrón appointment. The Mrs is from Elda. Maybe I'd be better getting in done there in the summer. Not the padrón the tie. I even signed up for the digital signature thing. But can't get the padrón their either.
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Weird!

Have you tried to make an appointment in a nearby province to see if it's the same?

Just looked for appointments in Bizkaia and appointments can still be made.
 
aupaalaves said:
Weird!

Have you tried to make an appointment in a nearby province to see if it's the same?

Just looked for appointments in Bizkaia and appointments can still be made.
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Aye that's what I'm saying. Elda is a smaller mountain town. I'll have the time in the summer to do it there. Only one Brit in the school has managed to get it so far However, the EU who we work for has told us not to worry yet.
aupaalaves said:
Weird!

Have you tried to make an appointment in a nearby province to see if it's the same?

Just looked for appointments in Bizkaia and appointments can still be made.
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Just looked. Nowhere is an option for me except Alicante. I presume, our employers Brussels will have to sort it in the end, if it comes to that. However, I'd like it sorted sooner than later as I don't want any of the problems we read about over the Christmas period about the green cards been incorrectly refused at airports.
 
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alicante mackem said:
If it was a well thought out informed one, I wouldn't mind. You know absolutely nothing about the subject matter on this thread but still have the incredible lack of self-awareness and totally misplaced self-confidence to actually believe you can make a valid contribution to something you know nothing about. Don't worry, there a few like you.
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A few ? There's dozens of them .
El Matador said:
Bulgaria,
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Wish I'd bought in Sunny Beach now . Bollicks .
 
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El Matador said:
Your NIE I believe is still relevant as I think it lasts a lifetime, much like the UK national insurance number.
The process of buying a property may not have changed much, there may be tax differences as a third country citizen, I'm not certain about that though.
The main difference is that as a third country citizen you will only be able to stay for 90 out of 180 days then must leave the Schenegen area. If you wanted to stay longer periods to avoid this you would need to take residencia and therefore be fiscally registered in Spain. You would need to have proof of income (£27.000 ?) or savings and show the paperwork to prove this. You would also need health insurance.
The fuss is about a lot more hurdles to jump through, more bureaucracy, more expense. Generally a lot more hassle which was not there previously.

It depends. The costas tend to attract people who in my experience are less likely or willing to integrate, they tend to stay within their own enclaves. I have always lived inland, usually in the mountains where generally Brits integrate and learn the language to one degree or another. I currently live in a small village and there are not many foreigners (Brits and EU) around here, those that are here are pretty well integrated.
The place I lived previously was a small town and is now two or three generations down the line and the sons and daughters who went to school locally are fluent in the language and totally immersed in the culture. They are marrying and having children with the local Spanish and other Europeans, it's a melting pot. In that community there are a lot of people who did not regulate their status and have existed (because it was possible) in a grey zone. Many of those are now encountering problems.
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Cheers on the NIE info, I will dig out my paperwork.
What is a third country citizen mate ? Do you mean third world?
My plan would be to buy a gaff live there in retirement so no income as such got me health insurance though.
 
Vauxie said:
Cheers on the NIE info, I will dig out my paperwork.
What is a third country citizen mate ? Do you mean third world?
My plan would be to buy a gaff live there in retirement so no income as such got me health insurance though.
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I think your pension should be proof of an income, you may need to show savings as well, health insurance will be necessary. Also property deeds will make it smoother. It sounds as things stand you'll not have any problems. Good luck with it all.
 
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aupaalaves said:
This is what I got told to do. Followed it step by step and no issues. The 12 euro tax needs to be paid before 10am I believe. I did mine at a BBVA bank. Santander said they didn't do it and La Caixa had a big queue 😂

You need to complete this form (selecting Certificado de registro de residente comunitario o Tarjeta de residencia de familiar de un ciudadano de la Unión. - works out at 12€, which you then need to pay in a bank before your appointment (you'll need the completed form to do this)

Tasa790_012

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Make an appointment in your provincia 👇

Proceso automático para la solicitud de cita previa

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The correct link for the appointment is
POLICÍA-EXP.TARJETA ASOCIADA AL ACUERDO DE RETIRADA CIUDADANOS BRITÁNICOS Y SUS FAMILIARES (BREXIT)
It's the second menu, TRÁMITES CUERPO NACIONAL DE POLICÍA.

Things to take:
*Your passport and a photocopy
*A passport (carnet) size photograph
*Both index fingers (they take prints)
*Receipt to show you've paid the bank charge

I'd take a recent copy of a Padrón as well as depending on who attends you, might request one.
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If it's a first application you need proof of medical insurance and now I think proof of income.
If it's to just change the green card, it won't be needed.
(I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if it's been said)
alicante mackem said:
NO HAY SUFICIENTES CITAS DISPONIBLES

It's been like that for over 6 months now.

Nah, it used to be easy. The last time before Covid, I had to wait months for a padrón appointment. The Mrs is from Elda. Maybe I'd be better getting in done there in the summer. Not the padrón the tie. I even signed up for the digital signature thing. But can't get the padrón their either.
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Our Ayto gives out 30 appointments every day. Just have to be there early doors. Even better if it's raining, as half the Spanish won't turn out incase they melt. 😂
 
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gizmoganzee said:
It's implied the police will not round up those without the relevant paperwork, but pick up at checkpoints?
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Road blocks and checkpoints manned by Guardia Civil are quite the norm. Over the last couple of weeks I've heard from people living in the area where I used to live that the Guardia have indeed been putting up blocks and asking people for their paperwork such as the usual passport, driving license (should be Spanish) but also NIE which is their proof of residencia. Something is definitely happening in that area where there is a fair number of Brits.
 
Typhoonftm said:
If it's a first application you need proof of medical insurance and now I think proof of income.
If it's to just change the green card, it won't be needed.
(I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if it's been said)

Our Ayto gives out 30 appointments every day. Just have to be there early doors. Even better if it's raining, as half the Spanish won't turn out incase they melt. 😂
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Yes, the instructions I posted before are for people who already have residency and to exchange the green card for a TIE one.

No idea the procedure for applications of first time resident. However, I've read a few times that the requirements are quite stricter than normal.
 
aupaalaves said:
Yes, the instructions I posted before are for people who already have residency and to exchange the green card for a TIE one.

No idea the procedure for applications of first time resident. However, I've read a few times that the requirements are quite stricter than normal.
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Yeh, many more hoops to jump through I expect.
 
Typhoonftm said:
Yeh, many more hoops to jump through I expect.
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Steep increase on the financial side.

It used to be about 7,500 euros in your bank account but now it's almost triple that I think.

On top of that, I'm sure I remember reading something along the lines of needing a certain income a month to guarantee monthly living expenses. Seemed extremely unfavorable to families with kids.
 
aupaalaves said:
Steep increase on the financial side.

It used to be about 7,500 euros in your bank account but now it's almost triple that I think.

On top of that, I'm sure I remember reading something along the lines of needing a certain income a month to guarantee monthly living expenses. Seemed extremely unfavorable to families with kids.
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Think it's 2,000 then 500 for each extra member of the household. Gonna be many who can't get anywhere near that.
 

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