Lockdown = Absolutely ZERO Flu

[raindog]

You have copied that word for word from here

Stop copy pasting other people’s work and trying to pass it off as your own.

Will the Wisdom Dawn?! Re: Covid-19: Mass testing is inaccurate and gives false sense of security, minister admits

www.bmj.com

Dont claim it to be mine just the truthful facts ... but its pretty common knowledge of the false positive and negatives. If it wasnt a pandemic neither the test or the vaccines would have been given the green light thus far.

 

[Frijj]

Dont claim it to be mine just the truthful facts ... but its pretty common knowledge of the false positive and negatives. If it wasnt a pandemic neither the test or the vaccines would have been given the green light thus far.

People fall over themselves to substantiate claims with reputable sources, yet you copy and pasted a response to another poster, from an opinion piece in the BMJ, which isn’t the “truthful fact” without even saying it was from the BMJ.

Fortunately those of us used to reading and writing in a certain style can spot things like that a mile off.

Not your work. Not your views. Not your opinions.

 

[RichB]

Dont claim it to be mine just the truthful facts ... but its pretty common knowledge of the false positive and negatives. If it wasnt a pandemic neither the test or the vaccines would have been given the green light thus far.

If you could explain to me what any of this and your copy/ paste post has to do with flu rates I would be very grateful as its gone totally over my head

 

[the dark one]

It should be completely unacceptable to go to work with a cold or any other illness, always should have been but people like to play the martyr.

Try telling that to HR departments up and down the country. Like the f***ing gestapo most of them. Pleased I'm out of it now, self employed,.

 

[Quintessence]

You need some level of infections otherwise your immune system won't adapt.

I think people's immune systems will be weakend and we'll see people dying from sickness bugs and flu in the next year

 

[rudd]

Dont claim it to be mine just the truthful facts ... but its pretty common knowledge of the false positive and negatives. If it wasnt a pandemic neither the test or the vaccines would have been given the green light thus far.

Why not?
You do realise the PCR test method is the same one that's used to identify influenzas?

 

[SAFCOldie]

I think people's immune systems will be weakend and we'll see people dying from sickness bugs and flu in the next year

It's certainly a possibility, meddling with nature is never a good idea and I'm minded to think lockdown won't have helped with these mutation incidents.

 

[rudd]

People fall over themselves to substantiate claims with reputable sources, yet you copy and pasted a response to another poster, from an opinion piece in the BMJ, which isn’t the “truthful fact” without even saying it was from the BMJ.

Fortunately those of us used to reading and writing in a certain style can spot things like that a mile off.

Not your work. Not your views. Not your opinions.

Same old shit, people passing off opinions as fact because they've read it or watched it somewhere and it fits what they want to believe, if they even understand it.

My favourite throughout the pandemic has been the varied bullshit about masks. The same people saying, "masks are pointless they don't stop anything" shortly followed by, "masks are dangerous they will stop your immune system from working because you need to get bugs into your system" and they can't even see the lack of consistency between the two statements.

 

[raindog]

Why not?
You do realise the PCR test method is the same one that's used to identify influenzas?

Then the chances are its not fit for purpose as in incubation etc. Then seasonal flu is not much more than a heavy cold unless your in your 70s 80s 90s etc so why venture into a covid battlezone to get told to go home, take some paracetamol plenty of fluids and rest. Covid will eventually end up under the same umbrella

 

[rudd]

I think people's immune systems will be weakend and we'll see people dying from sickness bugs and flu in the next year

I think the impact on people's immune systems will be minimal. B cells can last for decades and we're constantly exposed to microbes, for instance every time we eat or drink anything unless it's been sterilised.

 

[SAFCOldie]

I think the impact on people's immune systems will be minimal. B cells can last for decades and we're constantly exposed to microbes, for instance every time we eat or drink anything unless it's been sterilised.

I think we are talking about those elderly/extremely vulnerable that likely haven't left their houses for nigh on a year, It's a worry.

 

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[rudd]

Then the chances are its not fit for purpose as in incubation etc. Then seasonal flu is not much more than a heavy cold unless your in your 70s 80s 90s etc so why venture into a covid battlezone to get told to go home, take some paracetamol plenty of fluids and rest. Covid will eventually end up under the same umbrella

Don't follow you, incubation?
The rt-PCR test is designed to test specific genetic sequences that are known to exist solely in the subject being looked for. It's purpose to report these sequences qualitatively. It's entirely fit for purpose in that respect.

I think we are talking about those elderly/extremely vulnerable that likely haven't left their houses for nigh on a year, It's a worry.

Why? Why would reducing contact with potential fatal pathogens for people who are already very vulnerable due to their underlying health problems or immunosenescence be a bad thing? What's the science behind it?

 

[Quintessence]

I think the impact on people's immune systems will be minimal. B cells can last for decades and we're constantly exposed to microbes, for instance every time we eat or drink anything unless it's been sterilised.

Hope thats the case, but I was thinking stuff like norovirus, which kids will pass onto grandparents

 

[Baloo]

It should be completely unacceptable to go to work with a cold or any other illness, always should have been but people like to play the martyr.

That only works if your employer will accept a cold as a contagious virus and class it as a discountable absence. I regularly get colds (on top of allergic rhinitis and asthma that can present as cold symptoms). If I was off every time I had a cold I’d be out of a job in 6 months max.

I could try to educate you about the PCR test and why this is impossible but I suspect I would be wasting my time.

I have no idea why people are so fixated on dismissing Covid and making up some conspiracy. Do you really think every single countries lab technicians, virologists, ITU doctors, A&E doctors have got together and are just making shit up?

On the thread about “Scotland eradicating flu” and having no deaths in Jan, it was implied this was a load of bollocks. I provided a link from 2013 where over that whole flu season they’d had about 11 deaths and that was seen as high. Unsurprisingly none of the usual suspects replied.

Not so easy when your company uses the Bradford factor if you're unlucky and manage to catch 3 colds in 18 month you could be out of a job.

Quite easy for some offices to deploy the tactic but high volume manufacturing its virtually impossible, having 3 r 4 people off ill had a knock on effect stopping others getting lieu days and lines wouldn't be able to run to full volumes, shipments would be missed, company's fined etc.

In my opinion a colds a cold, it may spread but hardly harms anyone and no reason whatsoever to stay off with one.

With a common cold you are also infectious for 2-3 before you become symptomatic so even in offices it’s easy for it to spread before anyone even realises. That could shut down a whole office.
Edit 2-3 days.

 

[raindog]

Preliminary In-Season 2021-2022 Flu Burden Estimates

CDC's weekly cumulative in-season estimates of flu cases, medical visits, hospitalizations and deaths in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Hbk69]

I’ve quite enjoyed the whole mask and hand sanitizer thing. Will be happy to carry on using both and avoiding public transport.
That said I get that for some people having to wear a mask all day must be a pain.

How can you enjoy it. Stockholm syndrome

 

[Hbk69]

I really hope it becomes completely unacceptable to be out in public with a "cold" without a face covering, and certainly not to go to work with one.

And we all die as our immune systems are like glass. Wtf has happened to people. MAN UP

 

[haway]

My partner had a severe cold / flu at the start of winter. We didn’t get a test as symptoms didn’t initially seem consistent with covid and since we isolated regardless we didn’t think a test result one way or another mattered as we would isolate for 10 days anyway (levels of false positives and false negatives meant we would have isolated even if test came back negative). In retrospect I wonder if it was covid.

 

[SAFCOldie]

And we all die as our immune systems are like glass. Wtf has happened to people. MAN UP

It's a worrying mindset, it's like privatising your immune system as its not fit for purpose.