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wayne entwhistle no9 said:
SAFC and Vaux in partnership what could possibly wrong.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Innocent times. Was just talking the other day about ceefax latest scores, they used to take forever to turn a page over but at the time, it’s was the height of technology. First saw it in a schoolmates flat connected to the navy club over roker avenue.

I thought I was witnessing magic
 

Ghfd said:
Don’t know if you went to roker park but there was a programme shop, nearby and there was always a crowd outside, when they stuck up final scores on paper in the window, also people looking through windows to see if they had grandstand on with the typewriter
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I can remember the shop you mean.

Going back to the telly in the sports shop it used to be class seeing the reaction of all the Mags who used to gather to watch the Final Score teleprinter when they lost and we won.:lol:
 
Ghfd said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Innocent times. Was just talking the other day about ceefax latest scores, they used to take forever to turn a page over but at the time, it’s was the height of technology. First saw it in a schoolmates flat connected to the navy club over roker avenue.

I thought I was witnessing magic
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Old git
 
TheRey said:
For sure, but football as a whole just seems far bigger these days
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Because when Sky obtained the rights, they marketed the hell out of it and have sensationalised it to the n’th degree up to and including transfer deadline day where the biggest story was Liverpool signing someone from Preston to fill a centre half crisis.

Cricket continued on its merry way between 1992-2005 but fell so far behind football in the meantime and by the time Sky purchased home internationals in 2006, the damage had been done and all the move did was make cricket less accessible to the public whilst lining the pockets of bureaucrats like Giles Clarke.

One positive of modern cricket in terms of attendance is that our internationals are always extremely well attended. It is a bit of a piss-up but that’s more of a cultural thing than anything else. I’ve never been able to drag any of my mates that don’t like cricket to a game as even a day on the drink doesn’t make up for them not being interested in the actual event.

It’s domestic cricket where the problem lies. T20 has bridged the gap somewhat but county cricket, particularly the bigger counties, saw large attendances up until the 80’s in either 4 day or Sunday League games. Part of the problem however is the ECB’s ridiculous scheduling and so much cricket being played midweek and in cooler months.
 
The Breen Machine said:
Because when Sky obtained the rights, they marketed the hell out of it and have sensationalised it to the n’th degree up to and including transfer deadline day where the biggest story was Liverpool signing someone from Preston to fill a centre half crisis.

Cricket continued on its merry way between 1992-2005 but fell so far behind football in the meantime and by the time Sky purchased home internationals in 2006, the damage had been done and all the move did was make cricket less accessible to the public whilst lining the pockets of bureaucrats like Giles Clarke.

One positive of modern cricket in terms of attendance is that our internationals are always extremely well attended. It is a bit of a piss-up but that’s more of a cultural thing than anything else. I’ve never been able to drag any of my mates that don’t like cricket to a game as even a day on the drink doesn’t make up for them not being interested in the actual event.

It’s domestic cricket where the problem lies. T20 has bridged the gap somewhat but county cricket, particularly the bigger counties, saw large attendances up until the 80’s in either 4 day or Sunday League games. Part of the problem however is the ECB’s ridiculous scheduling and so much cricket being played midweek and in cooler months.
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Your last paragraph is spot on.

It's not pleasant watching red ball cricket when it's pissing with rain and absolutely freezing in April/September, and that's in good old Sarf London - God knows what it's like in the NE! Can't blame anyone who doesn't fancy that like. Cricket grounds are open, and generally quite cold - you've gotta be a hardcore lover of the game to get yourself up for those days.

And that's before we consider the effect that's had on the Test capabilities of our younger players, but that's a different thread.
 
The Breen Machine said:
Because when Sky obtained the rights, they marketed the hell out of it and have sensationalised it to the n’th degree up to and including transfer deadline day where the biggest story was Liverpool signing someone from Preston to fill a centre half crisis.

Cricket continued on its merry way between 1992-2005 but fell so far behind football in the meantime and by the time Sky purchased home internationals in 2006, the damage had been done and all the move did was make cricket less accessible to the public whilst lining the pockets of bureaucrats like Giles Clarke.

One positive of modern cricket in terms of attendance is that our internationals are always extremely well attended. It is a bit of a piss-up but that’s more of a cultural thing than anything else. I’ve never been able to drag any of my mates that don’t like cricket to a game as even a day on the drink doesn’t make up for them not being interested in the actual event.

It’s domestic cricket where the problem lies. T20 has bridged the gap somewhat but county cricket, particularly the bigger counties, saw large attendances up until the 80’s in either 4 day or Sunday League games. Part of the problem however is the ECB’s ridiculous scheduling and so much cricket being played midweek and in cooler months.
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The last bit is a really good point.

People on here paint the T20 Blast as a success but to me it’s an utter failure. The only club in our region get crowds of about 5k, the TV viewing figures are tiny and news coverage is buried 10 pages from the back page. That’s despite the actual stuff on the pitch being really good.

Limited overs county stuff was a ‘thing’ as recently as the 90s but it’s totally died.
 
NorthCountryBoy said:
The last bit is a really good point.

People on here paint the T20 Blast as a success but to me it’s an utter failure. The only club in our region get crowds of about 5k, the TV viewing figures are tiny and news coverage is buried 10 pages from the back page. That’s despite the actual stuff on the pitch being really good.

Limited overs county stuff was a ‘thing’ as recently as the 90s but it’s totally died.
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I think t20 has been hampered by the lack of actual England players being allowed to play and when they do, stokes for example, could not bowl an over when we were in the final

if stokes and wood were allowed to play for Durham, I’m convinced we would get closer to 10000 in. Now though a trip to headingley is a NE kids chance to see Stokes live
 
Ghfd said:
I think t20 has been hampered by the lack of actual England players being allowed to play and when they do, stokes for example, could not bowl an over when we were in the final

if stokes and wood were allowed to play for Durham, I’m convinced we would get closer to 10000 in. Now though a trip to headingley is a NE kids chance to see Stokes live
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You’re probably right but the target should be for Essex to fill an Olympic Stadium not see a sell out at 6k Chelmsford as a success. Make an imprint like the IPL or Big Bash.
 
The Hesford Diet said:
Test crowds were, indeed, poorly attended, apart from Ashes tests and West Indies tests in London. Even then, though, you could still stroll up to the ground and get in on any day. My school done regular trips to the test matches and there wasn't a single time that there was anywhere near a capacity crowd.
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We used to have an annual school trip down to Headingley (unfortunately I didn't go in 1981 - a bit too young - but if you watch the highlights there are plenty of gaps in the crowd at a time when the grounds were smaller) though most of memories are of it raining.
 
NorthCountryBoy said:
The last bit is a really good point.

People on here paint the T20 Blast as a success but to me it’s an utter failure. The only club in our region get crowds of about 5k, the TV viewing figures are tiny and news coverage is buried 10 pages from the back page. That’s despite the actual stuff on the pitch being really good.

Limited overs county stuff was a ‘thing’ as recently as the 90s but it’s totally died.
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Agreed - it looks good but scratch beneath the surface and I don’t know anyone who has been converted to cricket as a result of domestic T20. I have a few mates who have a passing interest in cricket but they only usually follow the test scores and know next to nothing about domestic cricket.

The Sunday League was a great idea. I grew up in the mid-90’s and many a time my parents would wake up on a Sunday and take us on a last minute trip to watch Durham. The games were usually well attended and it attracted families. It was a perfect format as some could head over after Sunday lunch and in the case of my Mam, she would do some shopping in Durham before meeting us in the ground for the last couple of hours of play.
 
The Breen Machine said:
Agreed - it looks good but scratch beneath the surface and I don’t know anyone who has been converted to cricket as a result of domestic T20. I have a few mates who have a passing interest in cricket but they only usually follow the test scores and know next to nothing about domestic cricket.

The Sunday League was a great idea. I grew up in the mid-90’s and many a time my parents would wake up on a Sunday and take us on a last minute trip to watch Durham. The games were usually well attended and it attracted families. It was a perfect format as some could head over after Sunday lunch and in the case of my Mam, she would do some shopping in Durham before meeting us in the ground for the last couple of hours of play.
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Agree on the Sundays. T20s on a Sunday are usually family friendly compared to the Friday night drinking crowd that gets in
 
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