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RichD said:
abit like Harry Bassett, who came across at Wimbledon as the cheeky chappy type but once he stepped up to a bigger club couldn't handle it...
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Did pretty well at most places he's been imo, certainly wasn't disgraced.
Just had a look on wiki and over 40% win rate at Forest and Barnsley, nearly 50% at Palace, if that's failure you have a different way of seeing things to me, Ainsworth would love to mirror his career I'll bet?
 
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Pathetic club and complete cheats and time wasters.

Anybody voting to end should have been ineligible for playoffs. They were 8th ffs
 
Jambezz said:
Me neither but I still hope they piss all over your lot.
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Why?
I'm pretty sure we've never been involved in all of those nasty conspiracies against your club.

Anyhow - if they do manage to 'piss all over our lot', i'm pretty sure our fans wont cry on as if it's some sort of deliberate attempt by the EFL to undermine us.
People need to get a grip - Sunderland didnt go up because they weren't good enough - end of.
 
seahamstar said:
Why?
I'm pretty sure we've never been involved in all of those nasty conspiracies against your club.

Anyhow - if they do manage to 'piss all over our lot', i'm pretty sure our fans wont cry on as if it's some sort of deliberate attempt by the EFL to undermine us.
People need to get a grip - Sunderland didnt go up because they weren't good enough - end of.
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I can handle that, we weren't but it's going to be proven that Wycombe shouldn't have either, it's the EFL to blame though not them.
 
Kid Galahad said:
I can handle that, we weren't but it's going to be proven that Wycombe shouldn't have either, it's the EFL to blame though not them.
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That may or may not be the case (about they shouldnt have gone up), but it could be argued about any team relegated or promoted from any league under those rules.
The whole scenario from March was unprecedented (not just football wise), wrongly or rightly it had to be sorted out somehow , no matter what decisions were taken , somebody was always gonna be unhappy about it.
 
seahamstar said:
That may or may not be the case (about they shouldnt have gone up), but it could be argued about any team relegated or promoted from any league under those rules.
The whole scenario from March was unprecedented (not just football wise), wrongly or rightly it had to be sorted out somehow , no matter what decisions were taken , somebody was always gonna be unhappy about it.
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They could have been cuter about it, see who wanted to finish or play on first of all, it you didn't you can't go into a play off scenario if that's what is decided as you have declined to have the opportunity 😉
 
Wycombe’s shithouse tactics won’t work in the championship. They probably won’t spend much in transfers this season because they know that they are most likely going to finish bottom. Serves them right this season. They were the one of worst at time wasting against us and that’s saying much considering almost all the teams we go against timewaste as soon as they get a goal lead. Not only do I hope they finish bottom but I hope they finish with a single digit points haul.
 
Kid Galahad said:
They could have been cuter about it, see who wanted to finish or play on first of all, it you didn't you can't go into a play off scenario if that's what is decided as you have declined to have the opportunity 😉
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I dont disagree with that tbh.
Suppose though - the teams that then finished in the play off positions would feel aggrieved that the rules were changed to allow 3rd place to be promoted.
As i see it, it was a situation that could never please everyone.
 
The Pro From Dover said:
Wycombe’s shithouse tactics won’t work in the championship. They probably won’t spend much in transfers this season because they know that they are most likely going to finish bottom. Serves them right this season. They were the one of worst at time wasting against us and that’s saying much considering almost all the teams we go against timewaste as soon as they get a goal lead. Not only do I hope they finish bottom but I hope they finish with a single digit points haul.
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Again it's match officials who let them get away with it are also to blame, it's hardly a big secret in football what they will get up to if they let them.
 
Kid Galahad said:
Did pretty well at most places he's been imo, certainly wasn't disgraced.
Just had a look on wiki and over 40% win rate at Forest and Barnsley, nearly 50% at Palace, if that's failure you have a different way of seeing things to me, Ainsworth would love to mirror his career I'll bet?
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He left Wimbledon and joined Watford as the new kid of the block and was sacked after a terrible time at that club (they went down that season) He then joined Sheff Utd in the same season and took them down anarl. I'll not mention Leicester as it's not kind on their fans. Aye that Wikipedia is great ;)
 
RichD said:
He left Wimbledon and joined Watford as the new kid of the block and was sacked after a terrible time at that club (they went down that season) He then joined Sheff Utd in the same season and took them down anarl. I'll not mention Leicester as it's not kind on their fans. Aye that Wikipedia is great ;)
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Most managers have an up and down time and fit in some places better than others, you implied he flopped everywhere which he didn't, 40% win average over a reasonably long career isn't too bad at all.
 
Kid Galahad said:
Most managers have an up and down time and fit in some places better than others, you implied he flopped everywhere which he didn't, 40% win average over a reasonably long career isn't too bad at all.
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What I said was when he went to a bigger club he couldn't handle it but no worries...
 
RichD said:
That might be true, Well I've noticed Phil Parkinson is starting to catch him up on the old percentage table, just goes to show...
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Don't get me wrong it's not the sort of football I would want to watch, certainly his Wimbledon brand would get football done away with, can't even remember what style he had with the other sides, I remember Forest being everything he wasn't in terms of style, maybe he did better with squads and fans who didn't mind it being a bit agricultural?
 
I haven't had a bet in a while but I was sorely tempted to back these to go down. Not a very good side who went up by the virtue of starting well who don't have the revenue of the gates from the play off games
 
I suspect Wycombe will be comfortably relegated and they will be exposed for being totally unprepared for life in the Championship.

Their promotion was a trifle fortunate - sneaked into the play offs when their form looked to be diving off a cliff. The method of applying unweighted points per game played to their advantage to. But it was the fairest and most transparent method to use.

But the reason they are being exposed is because they massively outperformed expectations even being in/around the top six in the first place. They’re a tiny club, probably L2 at best, and wishing ill will on such a small club should be beneath the dignity of Sunderland fans.

At worst they caught a bit of a lucky break having massively outperformed expectations over a number of years. Having caught the lucky break they still had to win the play offs, which they did. We had plenty of games to establish our superiority over Wycombe Wanderers and we failed.

They didn’t cheat. All clubs were allowed to vote and they voted a certain way. They didn’t influence the other 23 clubs and they were more exposed than most to paying footballers without any income. It was reasonable they got a free vote and it was reasonable they were allowed to compete the play offs having exercised that free vote. To do anything other would have been to favour the big clubs or the richer clubs.

But, yeah, they’ll go down.
 
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