Sale is close - Barnsey

[sir rowell cummins]

i’m fairly sure he said FPP was off long before other journos etc said it, he’s been saying since Barnes comments that nobody was buying us and it was more of a redistribution.

we’ll soon see

Maybe so but I don’t think Barnes would make this up- he has too much to lose reputationally- I also believe @prehab26 has heard something solid or he wouldn’t say owt. It could all fail of course. Maybe Nixon isn’t party to that information. On FPP his info was that they didn’t like the price. That is probably still the case for them and others.

 

[The Beautiful Game]

Satori hasn't been involved in the running of the club, he just took a share. It would be very different with him involved and committed. Need to just wait and see. Id rather this than one of the other mental cases linked to buying the club

He’s absolutely clueless. His master plan was to set up an academy in Uruguay we could import youngsters from showing he knows absolutely nothing about how the work permit process works in England.

 

[sir rowell cummins]

I’m feeling quite vindictive at the moment, marra, so if there’s a way for Safc to succeed whilst Donald loses a load of money, let’s go for that

In all seriousness I agree. Up to the point that The Dope had his meltdown at RAWA I would have even made my peace with him bringing about the change himself. I don’t really care who owns Safc. I just want them to be run well - because that will make it more likely that we succeed.

Yep I agree with all of that. The bitter comments at that fan engagement session really pissed me off.

 

[BIG MAL]

I’ll go back to what I’ve said throughout. I don’t want Donald making decisions and I don’t trust him to be forward thinking as he wants a quick buck. Whoever takes over needs to commit to a FIVE YEAR PLAN - have a strategy and money to invest in making it work including strengthening the academy and signing more up and coming players not free transfer dead legs worth nowt to sell. Basically build a sustainable club. I don’t give a shite who as long as they have a clear way of doing things and are competent. Personally I wouldn’t even care if Donald had some shares as long as his power of decision making is limited and his firmly in the minority.

I've lived through 20 five year plans and I'm only 69.
FFS if i hear this "5 year plan" any more i swear I'll go loopy.

 

[Deleted User 18963]

Maybe so but I don’t think Barnes would make this up- he has too much to lose reputationally- I also believe @prehab26 has heard something solid or he wouldn’t say owt. It could all fail of course. Maybe Nixon isn’t party to that information. On FPP his info was that they didn’t like the price. That is probably still the case for them and others.

However you want to dice it up, it will mean Donald is not the man anymore. It's over the threshold therefore, takeover can be used to describe what's going on.

 

[Gaz]

Maybe so but I don’t think Barnes would make this up- he has too much to lose reputationally- I also believe @prehab26 has heard something solid or he wouldn’t say owt. It could all fail of course. Maybe Nixon isn’t party to that information. On FPP his info was that they didn’t like the price. That is probably still the case for them and others.

don’t think he’d make it up either, whether SD would and feed him it is a different question

it also depends what “takeover” means to people.

 

[Roker Mackem]

He’s absolutely clueless. His master plan was to set up an academy in Uruguay we could import youngsters from showing he knows absolutely nothing about how the work permit process works in England.

You can imagine what was said.. "go in the crowd Juan to give the illusion youre running the club in some way"

 

[The Beautiful Game]

Disagree. I think you underestimate how actively bad Donald and his decision-making has been for Safc. His incompetence is staggering. As of right now we don’t have evidence that sartori is as bad. It’s tough to imagine anyone could be tbh.

If we end up with whoever ran things at Monaco then I’d be cautiously optimistic (although Monaco had their troubles under rybolovlev too). Sartori has proven in the rare times we’ve heard from him that he’s utterly clueless about how football works in this country however hence his comments about the Uruguay feeder academy. It’s an utter non starter and anyone with an ounce of knowledge would know that

 

[Safc88]

Fanzines have the ear of Gordon Armstrong. He is very bitter about his lack of involvement and is feeding them inaccurate stories. Although, I hope his new coaching busines that he has set up does well.

Not worth the time.

Is it sartori who u heard taking over?

 

[sir rowell cummins]

However you want to dice it up, it will mean Donald is not the man anymore. It's over the threshold therefore, takeover can be used to describe what's going on.

Sounds like things are still progressing ?

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

Would get not be knocked on the head for criminal charges?

Nixon has said all along its more about redistribution of shares and people on here got carried away, in all likelihood its probably just sartori going to own it and exactly the same structure as it is now.

Not if Robovlev is only involved indirrctly via his daughter. Dirt simple. Set up a trust somewhere like the Cayman Islands with his daughter and Sartori as beneficiaries. Shares in SAFC or Madrox are owned by a company controlled by Sartori and his daughter. Sartori has already gone through the test, and there's no reason to suppose his daughter would. Also, crucially, although accusations have been made against Rybovlev, he's not been convicted of anything.

 

[Red and white TID]

Agree with your sentiment, however the “employing the wrong people” was an absolute disaster for the club. He then sold us to unsuitable people too. If he ever did return then someone like Marwood would be vital. It’s all hypothetical anyway. Short has lost enough of his money on us. I very much doubt he’d be up for round 2

Who Marwood the massive Safc friend of ES who sold us Rodwell

 

[Deleted User 18963]

Sounds like things are still progressing ?

As far as I am aware, yes. But again , I just hear bits from people I trust. Hoping that it's still accurate mate. Needs to happen. Still think it will.

 

[Abu Dhabi Red and White]

Also, crucially, although accusations have been made against Rybovlev, he's not been convicted of anything.

That doesn't matter to the 'jury' of the SMB though....

 

[Maravilla]

Other than employing the wrong people i'm struggling to think what Ellis Short did wrong. Please enlighten me why he'd be almost as bad as SD.

Short employing the wrong people over and over again is the main reason why we ended up in League One and in a position to be taken over by a clown like Donald in the first place.

It wasn't for a lack of effort on his part but he was an appalling owner for us and really don't get why he's remembered with any sort of fondness.

 

[Red and white TID]

Not if Robovlev is only involved indirrctly via his daughter. Dirt simple. Set up a trust somewhere like the Cayman Islands with his daughter and Sartori as beneficiaries. Shares in SAFC or Madrox are owned by a company controlled by Sartori and his daughter. Sartori has already gone through the test, and there's no reason to suppose his daughter would. Also, crucially, although accusations have been made against Rybovlev, he's not been convicted of anything.

Not if Robovlev is only involved indirrctly via his daughter. Dirt simple. Set up a trust somewhere like the Cayman Islands with his daughter and Sartori as beneficiaries. Shares in SAFC or Madrox are owned by a company controlled by Sartori and his daughter. Sartori has already gone through the test, and there's no reason to suppose his daughter would. Also, crucially, although accusations have been made against Rybovlev, he's not been convicted of anything.

You tend not to be convicted when you are a billionaire though eh.

 

[The Ghost of Arca]

Few weeks we will know one way or another.

 

[lawe toppa]

Nixon hasn't a clue with regards to this imo and is purely guessing. Juan has never shown an interest at all and to think he would buy us are laughable. I don't get why people are pissing their pants over no news after 2 weeks when we were told end of August. Nobody heard of anything when these knackers took over and most takeovers happen away from the press. To me what would SD gain from lying??? I'm fairly confident this is happening.

 

[The Cabbage]

If we end up with whoever ran things at Monaco then I’d be cautiously optimistic (although Monaco had their troubles under rybolovlev too). Sartori has proven in the rare times we’ve heard from him that he’s utterly clueless about how football works in this country however hence his comments about the Uruguay feeder academy. It’s an utter non starter and anyone with an ounce of knowledge would know that

I dunno. Feels like a pub conversation ‘I would love it if....’ type of deal that got extrapolated. Particularly as the source was The Dope once again. I doubt he’s been sufficiently engaged with safc to actually look at any initiatives beyond a passing thought.

 

[Red and white TID]

Nixon hasn't a clue with regards to this imo and is purely guessing. Juan has never shown an interest at all and to think he would buy us are laughable. I don't get why people are pissing their pants over no news after 2 weeks when we were told end of August. Nobody heard of anything when these knackers took over and most takeovers happen away from the press. To me what would SD gain from lying??? I'm fairly confident this is happening.

Can’t believe people are falling for this, we are informed by a journalist that confidentiality agreements are in place, nothing from the club at all and people actually believe this, it’s obviously come from our glorious leader, who is renowned for tell us the truth, just a complete smokescreen