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[1st Test] England v Pakistan (Old Trafford)

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Optimistic about this! The ball is doing a lot off the pitch but the sun is out and roughly 8 of our side are in "point to prove" territory
 

mackembhoy said:
Foakes hasn't left the bubble. They've kept Lawrence leach and bracey in it too. As well as wood and curran

Depends on how the second innings goes but I'd be looking to bring in foakes leach wood and curran in for the next game. With Buttler Bess Archer dropped and one of Jimmy or Woakes rested.

The stuff below the bold is absolutely spot on.
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I didn't realise Foakes was still here, in that case he has to play (barring something exceptional from Buttler today).

Crawley, Foakes and Woody for Buttler, Archer and Anderson.
 
cooky said:
Archer has been nowhere near broads level for months and months. If he’s not bowling quick he’s the 4th best seamer in this team (in England) and wood should be in over him for his pace.
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Vaughan was spot on last night about him, what is he in the team for, he's a 90mph bowler who can bowl lightning spells when he gets into a rhythm but for most of this summer he's been 85mph line and length and we already have 3 better bowlers for that.
Archer and Wood are meant to be the xfactor for the bowling line up, only Wood is delivering express pace.
 
Wtf was all that about?
chunkylover53 said:
Looking at the odds

England 2.34
Pakistan 1.74

england are way way way too short there
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It’s madness! I still think we can do it, but we’re up against it after that. I sincerely hope it hasn’t set the tone for the day but you’d have to think it has. So why on earth are we that short? Answers on a postcard please.
 
How about a song......

All day all day
Watch them all fall down
All day all day
Where is Joe Denly

I was up half the night with a screaming baby, think I'm losing the plot TBH.
 
scotch said:
Vaughan was spot on last night about him, what is he in the team for, he's a 90mph bowler who can bowl lightning spells when he gets into a rhythm but for most of this summer he's been 85mph line and length and we already have 3 better bowlers for that.
Archer and Wood are meant to be the xfactor for the bowling line up, only Wood is delivering express pace.
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Precisely that mate. Archers main attribute as a bowler is his pace and the awkward angles he creates with his height and action. When he just puts it on a length he’s not bad but he’s nowhere near as good as the other 3 playing this test.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Willey was excellent in those games. 8 wickets, 47* and 51 with the bat
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Yeah, harsh on him but the last game when Ireland were all over us he came back into the attack and got smacked all over. I think that had always been the concern with him and he didn't do anything to allay those fears.
 
mikemanc said:
Yeah, harsh on him but the last game when Ireland were all over us he came back into the attack and got smacked all over. I think that had always been the concern with him and he didn't do anything to allay those fears.
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Yeah. But he’s never a death bowler. He’s the one bowler who came out with credit. And averaged 100 with the bat.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Yeah. But he’s never a death bowler. He’s the one bowler who came out with credit. And averaged 100 with the bat.
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I was harsh on him, scratch him off the list. But the reason he was dropped from the World cup squad is you can't bowl him late in an innings and it's a luxury you can rarely afford to not have a bowler bowl out because you are scared of using him. But anyway, that's a different argument, back to the test.
 
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