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June to July 2020 - NUFC

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The Fish said:
Papers today saying that Newcastle shouldn't expect Man City/Chelsea largess and that it'll be closer to the Leicester City model. I'd be over the moon with that. Leicester City have scouted well, they've grown from a Championship club to challenging for the European spots under their Thai owner. I'll have a bit of that, thank you very much.
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With a few beheadings thrown in
 

kingkeane said:
No spending spree. Ne Man City or Chelsea. Not the richest club in the world. Staveley and Awabs out!! Might be better off with the yank.

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It's the ultimate kick in the bollocks. That rich and decide not to spend anything. Imagine the meltdown in the Toon.
 
kingkeane said:
No spending spree. Ne Man City or Chelsea. Not the richest club in the world. Staveley and Awabs out!! Might be better off with the yank.

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I’m confident I’ll be a millionaire this time next year. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen...
 
Mind you they still aren't having this. They are of the opinion there's no way the saudis will want to own a club to make up the numbers and they will want them to win the title.
 
Fitzgerald said:
I make no secrets I won't be happy until we are back in Europe. It was all I knew growing up 94-2006. It was just about every season until big mike arrived
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Lunch break...since Man Utd were the first team to play in Europe in 1955/56 the mags have been in Europe 16 times, and not 49 times. For comparison LFC (44/21 and EFC, who you are way bigger than apparently 17/48). It is easy to cherry pick a period like you have - where you only missed two years but most clubs can find a purple patch, e.g. for the same number of 13 seasons from 1899 onwards Sunderland were in the top 3 seven times....its irrelevant to today.
 
jlaws said:
Lunch break...since Man Utd were the first team to play in Europe in 1955/56 the mags have been in Europe 16 times, and not 49 times. For comparison LFC (44/21 and EFC, who you are way bigger than apparently 17/48). It is easy to cherry pick a period like you have - where you only missed two years but most clubs can find a purple patch, e.g. for the same number of 13 seasons from 1899 onwards Sunderland were in the top 3 seven times....its irrelevant to today.
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I don't think he is cherry picking a period, he is talking about his period not the entire history of NUFC. He hasn't been going to the match since 1955 he's been going since the 90's.
His experience of supporting Newcastle is they were a good side and regularly in Europe until Ashley came along. It's understandable he will be itching to get back to how things were pre Ashley for him.
 
jlaws said:
Lunch break...since Man Utd were the first team to play in Europe in 1955/56 the mags have been in Europe 16 times, and not 49 times. For comparison LFC (44/21 and EFC, who you are way bigger than apparently 17/48). It is easy to cherry pick a period like you have - where you only missed two years but most clubs can find a purple patch, e.g. for the same number of 13 seasons from 1899 onwards Sunderland were in the top 3 seven times....its irrelevant to today.
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It's not irrelevant at all. If that's his experience, that's his experience. He didn't cherry pick a time period to be born in.

I remember little of Ardilles time and so much of my formative years supporting Newcastle were in times of nearly boundless ambition. World record fees for local top class strikers, actually competing with domestic and European giants for 90 minutes, trips to famous European grounds, trips to Wembley. After Ashley bought the club it's been a rather sharp turnaround, Club record fees for foreign ... whatever the fuck it is that Joelinton is. Failing to compete with clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton. Trips to Rotherham for a league game ffs.
 
The Fish said:
It's not irrelevant at all. If that's his experience, that's his experience. He didn't cherry pick a time period to be born in.

I remember little of Ardilles time and so much of my formative years supporting Newcastle were in times of nearly boundless ambition. World record fees for local top class strikers, actually competing with domestic and European giants for 90 minutes, trips to famous European grounds, trips to Wembley. After Ashley bought the club it's been a rather sharp turnaround, Club record fees for foreign ... whatever the fuck it is that Joelinton is. Failing to compete with clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton. Trips to Rotherham for a league game ffs.
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Pure co-incidence that his football formative years where when Newcastle were on the up. Nothing lasts forever and no one is entitled to it lasting forever. But pre-Fitzgeralds formative Newcastle years NUFC were not regulars in Europe. You just need to accept you are not some kind of European monolith. You had a fair few good days out, that is all.
 
kingkeane said:
No spending spree. Ne Man City or Chelsea. Not the richest club in the world. Staveley and Awabs out!! Might be better off with the yank.

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To be fair ....at the very beginning of the proposed takeover..the word was that it's a long term project and not a quick fix
I would be very happy with that thank you.
 
The Fish said:
Papers today saying that Newcastle shouldn't expect Man City/Chelsea largess and that it'll be closer to the Leicester City model. I'd be over the moon with that. Leicester City have scouted well, they've grown from a Championship club to challenging for the European spots under their Thai owner. I'll have a bit of that, thank you very much.
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The Leicester city model at first was trying to buy their way to promotion yet keep on failing. 2015-2016 was via total and utter accident as opposed to design, the concensus was Ranieri was a poor appointment.
 
The Fish said:
It's not irrelevant at all. If that's his experience, that's his experience. He didn't cherry pick a time period to be born in.

I remember little of Ardilles time and so much of my formative years supporting Newcastle were in times of nearly boundless ambition. World record fees for local top class strikers, actually competing with domestic and European giants for 90 minutes, trips to famous European grounds, trips to Wembley. After Ashley bought the club it's been a rather sharp turnaround, Club record fees for foreign ... whatever the fuck it is that Joelinton is. Failing to compete with clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton. Trips to Rotherham for a league game ffs.
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When you say "failing to compete" are you talking about Net Spend shite again ?

And I take it you slept through the 2011 - 2012 season then when you finished 5th ?
 
jlaws said:
Pure co-incidence that his football formative years where when Newcastle were on the up. Nothing lasts forever and no one is entitled to it lasting forever. But pre-Fitzgeralds formative Newcastle years NUFC were not regulars in Europe. You just need to accept you are not some kind of European monolith. You had a fair few good days out, that is all.
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Of course it's coincidence, but that doesn't mean it's irrelevant.
Mark E Smith said:
When you say "failing to compete" are you talking about Net Spend shite again ?

And I take it you slept through the 2011 - 2012 season then when you finished 5th ?
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No, I'm talking about ambition.

That season has way much more significance for you than it does for me. It was aberrant.
 
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Blue_Monday said:
Two relegations and countless other relegation battles suggests otherwise. Steve Bruce has actually done a decent job this season but the fact that he ever got the job in the first place tells its own story.
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Complete bollocks, You have been relegated twice and immediatley responded with two Championship titles breaking Championship transfer records each time.

Other league finishes, 13th, 12th, 12th, 5th, 16th, 10th, 15th, 10th, 13th - Apparently though he only wants to finish 17th each season.

Teams also relegated during his tenure include Cardiff, Fulham Huddersfield, Swansea, Stoke, WBA, Hull, Boro, Sunderland, Norwich, Villa, QPR, Burnley, Norwich, Reading, Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn, Bolton, West Ham, Blackpool, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Derby.

You are hardly in the minority in suffering a relegation.
 
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