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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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AndyH said:
The regime isn't forcing Sharia law on the people it's what the vast majority of them believe. If you had a poll in Saudi asking them if they would like to live under Sharia Law or British Common law, Sharia wins hands down.
Granted Sharia Law does force itself through violence on those people in Saudi that dissent which I think is a bad thing, will I be waving banners and going on marches then no.
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Oh, so the majority of free people from saudi arabia were ok with dismembering Khashoggi, so that makes it acceptable. I get it, maybe it was the people's choice. Long live the mag king!
 

scott934 said:
What this does show is that their entire fanbase are hypocrites, happy to slag Ashley off for zero hours contracts. Which is fair, but it now shows that it wasn't really about any morality, it was about hoying as much shit as possible onto a bloke who wasn't gonna fund a title chase.

Very much out of the frying pan, into the inferno from a moral standpoint.
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As if they gave a shit about zero hour contracts , they only gave a shit because they aren't up there competing with the BIG BOYS.
 
AndyH said:
I think @The Fish summed up my sentiments very well a few posts back.

I have to be honest this political debate going round in circles is getting pretty tedious for me.
lets just agree to disagree, you be happy with your morals and i'll be happy with mine
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Yeah I thought that was a lovely post.

I'm not actually talking about morals but why certain groups of people get involved in things when they hit closer to home but yes - all the best. Hope you're well.

Best
- Bert
 
Gobuchul said:
On a turnover of £180 million? So just over 1%? Yes, it's insignificant.
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We'll never agree on this. I think £2m pounds for having adverts all over the stadium is a significant amount of money, and I also think it's on the cheap side. Hopefully if this deal goes through, we'll see commercial deals that are more in line with teams aiming for the top half of the table.
 
I mentioned the other week if Chi Onwurah would be as vocal as she was against Mike Ashley. Well it seems it was just a personal vendetta she’s actually inviting fans to a digital meeting on how they would like their club to run. An owner doesn’t in her opinion do enough to get the club into Europe and she’s banging on number 10 demanding a public enquiry but chop a few heads off and chuck a few gays off buildings and not a word!
 
The Fish said:
We'll never agree on this. I think £2m pounds for having adverts all over the stadium is a significant amount of money, and I also think it's on the cheap side. Hopefully if this deal goes through, we'll see commercial deals that are more in line with teams aiming for the top half of the table.
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If someone provided Sunderland with interest free loans, I’d let them have all the advertising they wanted for free. The debt repayments we had were draining money from the club. The interest free loans probably saved Newcastle around £10m per year, quite a saving over his 13 year tenure.
 
partridge amongst the pig said:
The amount of mags with Saudi flags on the twitter profiles now man... Embarrassing and sportwashing at it's most obvious.
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I think that's one of the reasons that attracted them. I couldn't see Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea fans acting like that if they took over there.

But the Mags have this strange thing to be seen to love everyone and be loved. Remember the French stuff and the Spanish stuff when Benitez was manager?
 
AndyH said:
I didn't say above all else.
Just saying it never bothered me Ashley slapping sports direct all over the place, my issue was not giving the club the going rate for the space.
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But it was/is his club, so surely it's his vehicle to promote his other ventures....right?
You could argue it being at the detriment of the club in terms of extra finance but what about the loans he gave that were interest free?
You could also argue the same point of, "well it is his club so why shouldn't he loan it interest free."

Well surely the same applies and surely this means it's basically swings and roundabouts with both scenarios....so why should anyone be bothered?
He's spent money whether net spend is used as a bashing tool against him.
Would he spend more for the sake of paying a bit of advertising money and then charging interest on loans from his personal wealth?

The mere fact he wheeled and dealed to gain a net spend should be in his and the clubs favour rather than a stick to beat him with.
You're a fan looking on the outside in, like I am and just about every other fan with little to zero insider knowledge.

The man is the devil to some and an irritant to others, plus he's simply a rich businessman that will do what he needs to do to cater for his businesses, like all businesspeople.
The only difference with Ashley is, he's been shoved centre stage with every stage light focused on him....all started because one man lit the fuse that rattled the masses and he literally went from a messiah who was immediately loved to a villain of which there is no equal when it suited some fans who clung heavily onto the walkaway messiah who was once idolised and held dear to....and from then his sports direct signs became eyesores and degrading tat, where earlier his stuff was all fine.

Massive hypocritical hate by some fans.

The very same fans will lick the boots of the new owners, at first....but.....if they plaster the stadium with their wares, it will be a massive up market upgrade against the so called Ashley tat......unless they make a Q.P.R like mistake and basically go so mental with mercenaries on unsustainable wages and big contracts for little to no....or diminishing returns.....they will soon become all the hate stories that many other fans are putting out....by those very same fans that hung onto their every word with doe eyes.

Then their signs and changes become unsightly and the ruination of a once great club....and so on and so on and so on. It's tosh and it seriously pees me right off.

We're all hypocrites in some aspects but this kind of stuff pushes the boundaries of hypocrisy by a long stretch.

Now I'm not aiming all this at you...I'm giving a general view of the fans I've come across, many of who just feel they will go along with the bullying majority, rather than have their own thoughts....because it's easier to walk with the comfort of the many than to be cast aside as the few into the cold.


Have I waffled on?.....Yep....but then again I like to get stuff off my chest.


Let's put this in a very simple way.

If you owned a bus company and also a window company, you would use your privilege of advertising your bus company onto your window company vans and window company onto your buses....right?
I'm sure you would advertise at your depot's....right?

Are you going to charge yourself?
Of course not.

If these new owners manage to hit the ground running with their blank cheques and sneaks around the fair play, they will be almost gods with the very same fans who gave up being a supporter, telling all and sundry how they never lost their faith, whilst telling stories of their nostalgic emotional rollercoaster life as a fan and supporter and never flinching with their love of the club.....it's just that Ashley made them sick to the pits of their stomach's and that's all.

Guffaw guffaw guffaw.
Like a big bunch of hypocritical snobs, man.

Ok I've had my vent again.
Most Newcastle fans are realistic, in my opinion...as are Sunderland fans and many other club's fans.....barring a few.
Soon enough that realism will diminish for us lot, because we will become a club......actually, we will not become a club.......will will no longer be a real club.
We will become a playground for the rich. An arena for those who can afford to be there using their thumbs to up or down the entertainment, as and when the need arises.

The real Newcastle United?..........................That will likely die as soon as the take over ink is dried....because the real fans will definitely become obsolete.
 
Mackem2017 said:
I mentioned the other week if Chi Onwurah would be as vocal as she was against Mike Ashley. Well it seems it was just a personal vendetta she’s actually inviting fans to a digital meeting on how they would like their club to run. An owner doesn’t in her opinion do enough to get the club into Europe and she’s banging on number 10 demanding a public enquiry but chop a few heads off and chuck a few gays off buildings and not a word!
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She wants to reach out and engage and see how the club fans and owners can work together
She should be all over this
 
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