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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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Rottie said:
So you came for the Newcastle content and yet you pretended to be a Sunderland supporter :lol:
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I have explained that was a very specific campaign of misinformation with the stated aim of destabilising fan opinion.

It was an ends to a means. I am reformed now and will only concern myself with Novocastria.

Must go, the markets have opened,
 

Ericsgate said:
I have explained that was a very specific campaign of misinformation with the stated aim of destabilising fan opinion.

It was an ends to a means. I am reformed now and will only concern myself with Novocastria.

Must go, the markets have opened,
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😂😂😂first outed 2 years ago, as noted previously in this thread.
 
Ericsgate said:
I have explained that was a very specific campaign of misinformation with the stated aim of destabilising fan opinion.

It was an ends to a means. I am reformed now and will only concern myself with Novocastria.

Must go, the markets have opened,
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Nobody gives a fuck retard
 
Ericsgate said:
I have explained that was a very specific campaign of misinformation with the stated aim of destabilising fan opinion.

It was an ends to a means. I am reformed now and will only concern myself with Novocastria.

Must go, the markets have opened,
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You’re a f***ing embarrassment, if you found someone stupid enough to find you attractive and had kids I bet they’d disown you.
 
AndyH said:
BeIN sports, a company owned by Qatar pay for a large amount of sport content (not just Premier league).
A pirate network pinches their broadcasts and transmits it over the internet for subscribers all over the Middle East (for the most part) via Arabsat a company based in Saudi.
Qatar and Saudi are very much at logger heads and Qatar believe that senior Saudi figures back this and a independent report found that senior Saudi figures are at least tacit in regard to the affair.

Nothing there to effect the potential sale of Newcastle i'm afraid. although if the sale goes through I suppose it might inspire the Saudi's to look into it as the more money going into the Premier League the more money for them.

Notice I stress the word IF
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Just to put some context around this.

Qatar-based BeIN are the main sports broadcaster for Asia (and other regions). They paid a lot for that - this is some of the most valuable sports television in the world, and includes the Premier League, the Champions League and the World Cup. Heavy hitters.

One of BeIN's biggest markets was Saudi - football is HUGE in Saudi - and TV and online audiences there is massive, the region's biggest. The recent fallout and blockade of Qatar (a thread in itself, but essentially "Iran") saw all ties cut, and the footy went with it, across the Middle East.

After some back and forth, some GCC countries got it back, but not Saudi, which has banned the sale of subscriptions to the network as part of the economic blockade of Qatar. Enter BeINQ, who started transmitting BeIN's output to the whole of Saudi.

BeIN have never made money since they started, but the loss of Saudi was a big blow - they had to get rid of about a fifth of their employees.

The technology needed to do what BeINQ are doing is monumental - it's been operated with signals transmitted by Arabsat, a communications company based in Saudi Arabia, with at least the tacit support of some VERY powerful figures in Saudi Arabia.

Now, definitive proof of that is another thing, but Premier League are furious, they're very protective of their content when it comes to this stuff (try putting a Premier League clip on YouTube, see how long it lasts), and they back BeIN on their claims. As do FIFA.

An investigation financed by FIFA, two of its confederations and a group of top European soccer leagues concluded “without question” that a Saudi Arabia-backed satellite provider has played a vital role in a piracy operation

If beIN withdraw from the market for those rights, it could have significant financial repercussions for FIFA, its confederations, the leagues and their teams.

Arabsat, based in Riyadh, is jointly owned by a consortium of Arab nations, Saudi Arabia is by far its biggest investor. BeoutQ itself claims to be based in Cuba and Colombia, though all evidence points to its being a Saudi-run operation with the support of powerful figures in the country, including Saud al-Qahtani, a senior aide and close advisor to... MBS.

And MBS is, among lots of other things, chairman of PIF.

All that said - will it stop the sale going through? I very much doubt it, it will need a lot more firmer evidence. But it does give you a glimpse into the part Newcastle United will be playing in SA's geopolitical games from now on. Don't expect this to be the last.
 
AndyH said:
I have never said i don't think there is anything wrong with his track record, if i'm honest I don't know a great deal about him. I have heard he is classed as someone that is progressive over their but i obviously don't agree with bumping of journalists and other things i am aware that go on in Islamic countries.

What is it that you suggest i should do should this take over happen, stop supporting my club?

Saudi Arabia is trying to modernise, to become more moderate by our standards, to move away from being totally oil dependent by making investments in western business. Is it your argument that the people of the west should rally and block them from investing in the west and keep them locked in Arabia were people with their human rights record belong?
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You need to educate yourself mate. For what it’s worth, yes, it is my opinion that we should block tyrannical despots from investing in the UK, as it is the case with anyone else with a moral compass.
 
safc_grindon said:
Just to put some context around this.

Qatar-based BeIN are the main sports broadcaster for Asia (and other regions). They paid a lot for that - this is some of the most valuable sports television in the world, and includes the Premier League, the Champions League and the World Cup. Heavy hitters.

One of BeIN's biggest markets was Saudi - football is HUGE in Saudi - and TV and online audiences there is massive, the region's biggest. The recent fallout and blockade of Qatar (a thread in itself, but essentially "Iran") saw all ties cut, and the footy went with it, across the Middle East.

After some back and forth, some GCC countries got it back, but not Saudi, which has banned the sale of subscriptions to the network as part of the economic blockade of Qatar. Enter BeINQ, who started transmitting BeIN's output to the whole of Saudi.

BeIN have never made money since they started, but the loss of Saudi was a big blow - they had to get rid of about a fifth of their employees.

The technology needed to do what BeINQ are doing is monumental - it's been operated with signals transmitted by Arabsat, a communications company based in Saudi Arabia, with at least the tacit support of some VERY powerful figures in Saudi Arabia.

Now, definitive proof of that is another thing, but Premier League are furious, they're very protective of their content when it comes to this stuff (try putting a Premier League clip on YouTube, see how long it lasts), and they back BeIN on their claims. As do FIFA.

An investigation financed by FIFA, two of its confederations and a group of top European soccer leagues concluded “without question” that a Saudi Arabia-backed satellite provider has played a vital role in a piracy operation

If beIN withdraw from the market for those rights, it could have significant financial repercussions for FIFA, its confederations, the leagues and their teams.

Arabsat, based in Riyadh, is jointly owned by a consortium of Arab nations, Saudi Arabia is by far its biggest investor. BeoutQ itself claims to be based in Cuba and Colombia, though all evidence points to its being a Saudi-run operation with the support of powerful figures in the country, including Saud al-Qahtani, a senior aide and close advisor to... MBS.

And MBS is, among lots of other things, chairman of PIF.

All that said - will it stop the sale going through? I very much doubt it, it will need a lot more firmer evidence. But it does give you a glimpse into the part Newcastle United will be playing in SA's geopolitical games from now on. Don't expect this to be the last.
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Interesting, I'd say it may well scupper the sale tbh
 
Imagine wanting all this linked to your club, mass murders, executions, corruption and piracy all because you want a new faymus numba neynnn. Literally not worth the hassle, will be scrutinised at every oppertunity with every transfer examined.

It has disaster written all over it.
 
Ericsgate said:
If there is a Newcastle message board recommended I would happily discuss with them?

Ironically, I first discovered this board via a web search for a Newcastle message board.

The google algorithm does not lie, Newcastle fans land here because you post so much Newcastle content.
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Utter Bollocks.

They land here because they google SMB (Sad mackem Bastards) or they're obsessed.

Personally, I'd go for the second reason.
 
Davyred said:
Utter Bollocks.

They land here because they google SMB (Sad mackem Bastards) or they're obsessed.

Personally, I'd go for the second reason.
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86.8% of the messages on this Newcastle thread have been from Sunderland fans. At neatly 200 pages it is a representative sample.

Fallacy to state it is all Newcastle supporters.
 
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