Pop
Striker
This was 16 years ago, were budgets being cut then?
Thought that was the boom years with record public spending/borrowing?
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Another day another grooming gang....
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This was 16 years ago, were budgets being cut then?
Thought that was the boom years with record public spending/borrowing?
Jon Dough
Winger
Most of the abusers escaped justice,some went on to reoffend,Joan Agoglia aged 15 abused then finished off by a 50 year old guy who gave her a lethal injection of heroin.
It isn’t as simple as that, come on mate we’ve both got jobs in the real world, you can’t just magick up the capacity to work on something if it isn’t there, you only end up taking from somewhere else. Sometimes you’ve already committed that resource.
Onmywayallan
Full Back
These girls must have had that white privilege I keep hearing about
Herr Lipp
Central Defender
I’m sorry like but blaming not pursuing the case due to lack of resources when kids are being raped sounds like a cop out and trying to deflect blame.
Not been able to investigate robberies due to lack of resource is one thing I can understand, but not dealing with a child abuse case on this scale is pure negligence on the part of all agencies involved.
There should be criminal proceedings against those who are proven to have known and done nothing. People get done for corporate negligence in the private sector.
Boz33
Striker
It’s an easy way out....lack of resources, how many constabularies have come out which that excuse, and the was going on way before the crash so what was the excuse in the Blair years as it wasn’t going on then too?It quite literally says there was not enough resource. You are so blindly stubborn that you will simply not acknowledge what the article is clearly saying - not enough resource to investigate grooming.
You will happily place the blame at the door of the left or the politically correct and you will completely ignore the blindingly obvious fact that their budget has been cut
“Mr Hopkins said although there had been a rise in police funding from council tax, 80 per cent of the force’s budget was made up of government grants, which have been cut.”
Police not investigating 40% of crimes reported in Manchester ‘because of budget cuts’
Chief constable says officers are ‘screening out’ crimes where there is no prospect of convictionwww.independent.co.uk
Given you’ve only just mentioned that I think we both assumed that this was a recent case, and we’ve both just seen what @Pop has posted, so fair play I’m slightly in the wrong here.
So you and I both spent the last two pages arguing having not read the article ffs
Clearly you were just arguing the toss!
Boz33
Striker
Cmon frijj your not that daft you know as well same this has been going on for decades and duck all has been done....the same with catholic and cofe paedo priests.
I read the article, and started the thread ffsSo you and I both spent the last two pages arguing having not read the article ffs
Clearly you were just arguing the toss!
JonMc
Striker
I think so yes. In part. Resources were diverted to murder cases.Is that perhaps because there’s a shortage of police including a shortage of detectives?
Fewer criminals being caught after 28% drop in detective numbers
Exclusive: English and Welsh forces lose 610 serious crime detectives under austeritywww.theguardian.com
That doesn't excuse though the way in which the investigation was simply dropped afterwards. They were refusing to look into it even last year. And all this time the rapists were doing what they were doing - and they knew it. This was about resources but it was also about diversity and 'little sluts getting what they ask for'. That was enough to forget about it.
Cmon frijj your not that daft you know as well same this has been going on for decades and duck all has been done....the same with catholic and cofe paedo priests.
I read the article, and started the thread ffs
If you’d read it you’d have picked me up on not realising it was recent when I said they didn’t have the funding due to government cuts. You only mentioned it was during the Blair years AFTER @Pop mentioned it.
I didn’t read every detail, you didn’t either.
I’ve already said time and time again that there is a genuine problem within certain Asian communities. Don’t you try and pin that on me.
Herr Lipp
Central Defender
I just can’t comprehend why just because the men were Asian nothing was done and this seems to not just be one council/police force but a systematic problem across the country at that time.
Why were people happy for girls to be abused to avoid any possible (unlikely) public backlash because the men weren’t white? Appreciate it was at the height of “PC gone mad” but still really weird.
Why were people happy for girls to be abused to avoid any possible (unlikely) public backlash because the men weren’t white? Appreciate it was at the height of “PC gone mad” but still really weird.
the dark one
Winger
That's bollocks Norris . It's paramount to not investigating a murder or a rape because they didn't have time or funds. If it's proved that this was in fact the reason, those at the top should be brought to task, and locked up.
Does it actually say they did nothing because they were Asian? Only skim read it so must have missed that.
Pop
Striker
They’re the ones who said they didn’t have the money mate, I realise the Free Tommy brigade won’t rest until someone is lynched but haway. They didn’t have the money, even then. No wonder they can’t do anything now.
Well I have learned my lesson and that is to read what year this happened
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Deleted member 26533
Guest
Lack of resources seems like a massive cop out for something of that nature and magnitude.
Herr Lipp
Central Defender
Well, the article says they knew what was going on and didn’t deal with it. As this seems to be have been commonplace at the time, based on other scandals that have broke in recent years, it’s fairly safe to assume there was a reluctance do deal with Asian grooming gangs due to the potential fall out if they were wrong.
