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4th Ashes Test - Old Trafford

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The Rat said:
Denly is a good example of what we were talking about yesterdat, this false misconseption about "bottling it" or being "mentally weak"

Nobody can say Denly doesn't have guts or balls, almost every innings he just about gets himself him, despite being completely out of form. He has took many blows to the body, and has battled on against 3 bowlers hitting the stumps bowling high 80s/early 90s when its reverse swining


The reality is, he probably isn't quite up to test standard technique wise, which means he will get out eventually, but he is doing his best and I think has really dug in at times,

Its easy for people on a message board to look at a list of averages saying, pick him, pick him, but he is out there getting stuck in, its hard against this bowling and there is no easy answer
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I don’t think Denly is all that bad to be honest. Don’t get me wrong, he isn’t going to win you tests necessarily but he has shown fight and some ability at times.

I wouldn’t say you can fault Roy’s mentality either, he’s just not very good.
 
Roy did alright until he left the front gate, back gate, front door and back door open.

Fancy we're going to need these two still together at tea.
 
Safc_Luke said:
Well if they want him to open then surely he deserves the Oval and the two in New Zealand atleast?
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Hes been gutsy but will he consistently get enough runs? Depends on make up of team personally id bring pope in and Sibley you can probably take your ur pick who to leave out
 
Voice of fair play said:
Totally disagree but that’s fine.

Gilchrist walked in a World Cup semi once and he was a brilliant player and a example to all
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One for you the lbw shout last test stokes knew where he was standing Australia had no reviews he did not walk ? Why?

Gilchrist was always one of the Aussies i liked. Siddle is probably the only one I don’t mind in their squad at the moment.
 
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chopsfc007 said:
Hes been gutsy but will he consistently get enough runs? Depends on make up of team personally id bring pope in and Sibley you can probably take your ur pick who to leave out
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He could cement a place for the games I mentioned with a 80+ today.

Buttler is the one I'd question. Foakes could keep and Bairstow is good enough to play as a batsman only.
 
Safc_Luke said:
He could cement a place for the games I mentioned with a 80+ today.

Buttler is the one I'd question. Foakes could keep and Bairstow is good enough to play as a batsman only.
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Goes on last test doesn’t it looks like nothing to play for so nerves may come off. Rather them take the urn home on a draw than a win.
 
The Rat said:
Denly is a good example of what we were talking about yesterdat, this false misconseption about "bottling it" or being "mentally weak"

Nobody can say Denly doesn't have guts or balls, almost every innings he just about gets himself him, despite being completely out of form. He has took many blows to the body, and has battled on against 3 bowlers hitting the stumps bowling high 80s/early 90s when its reverse swining


The reality is, he probably isn't quite up to test standard technique wise, which means he will get out eventually, but he is doing his best and I think has really dug in at times,

Its easy for people on a message board to look at a list of averages saying, pick him, pick him, but he is out there getting stuck in, its hard against this bowling and there is no easy answer
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Acrually think denly has done okay overall really, been difficult but he has done better than I expected. If he was 7 or 8 years younger I would probably be tempted to keep him in and give him a good run to improve a few bits of his game here and there. At his age though it’s a waste of time as he isn’t going to improve much.
 
safcpelaw said:
One for you the lbw shout last test stokes knew where he was standing Australia had no reviews he did not walk ? Why?

Gilchrist was always one of the Aussies i liked. Siddle is probably the only one I don’t mind in their squad at the moment.
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How is an lbw comparable to getting caught behind. As already said by others 99% of the time you know you have hit it and I would always walk. There’s times when you get hit in front when you think it’s close but probably only a handful I’ve had where I’ve known 100% that’s out.
 
cooky said:
How is an lbw comparable to getting caught behind. As already said by others 99% of the time you know you have hit it and I would always walk. There’s times when you get hit in front when you think it’s close but probably only a handful I’ve had where I’ve known 100% that’s out.
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I get your point but watching that one sometimes batsman do know it’s harder decision but looking at the pitch etc.

But ultimately Wilson will only know himself why he made that decision. Which was god awful not that I’m complaining
 
safcpelaw said:
Aye I know but like I said take everything you can, I don’t mean one review will change the whole game.
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We need to keep reviews. It’s going to be tough to get an LBW here with the bounce, so if one is given on the field, we need to be able to review it. Stokes was out and knew it, would have been a total waste of a review.

I reckon we can afford to lose one wicket max in this session
 
Wise Man Says said:
We need to keep reviews. It’s going to be tough to get an LBW here with the bounce, so if one is given on the field, we need to be able to review it. Stokes was out and knew it, would have been a total waste of a review.

I reckon we can afford to lose one wicket max in this session
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Was their review pal... but I get ya take this ball by ball......
 
cooky said:
Acrually think denly has done okay overall really, been difficult but he has done better than I expected. If he was 7 or 8 years younger I would probably be tempted to keep him in and give him a good run to improve a few bits of his game here and there. At his age though it’s a waste of time as he isn’t going to improve much.
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true
If we just had 1 less wicket, or of Root or Burns could have stayed in
 
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