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Takeover Rumours

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DufraisFTM said:
I love it when they come out with shit like this. They appear to rank themselves alongside Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd in being the top side in the great rivalries in English football.

However, Arsenal are categorically bigger and more successful than Spurs.
Liverpool are categorically bigger and more successful than Everton.
Man Utd are categorically bigger and more successful than Man City (although that one is changing).

Us and them is a bit meh.
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CissesUnderpants19 said:
i have always thought he's very dour to be honest.
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He does nothing but criticise our support and rarely criticises managers or players. I nearly fell off my chair when I heard him ask Ross a question that sounded challenging. I see Barnes as a Motson figure. Knows his stats and his detail but just doesn’t seem to have his finger on the pulse as far as representing supporters thoughts. Just my opinion. I’ve a lot of time for Bennett despite him not being the finest broadcaster. He isn’t the most, shall we say, eloquent, but I think he has finger on the pulse as far as fans go
 
The Sheepfolds End said:
He does nothing but criticise our support and rarely criticises managers or players. I nearly fell off my chair when I heard him ask Ross a question that sounded challenging. I see Barnes as a Motson figure. Knows his stats and his detail but just doesn’t seem to have his finger on the pulse as far as representing supporters thoughts. Just my opinion. I’ve a lot of time for Bennett despite him not being the finest broadcaster. He isn’t the most, shall we say, eloquent, but I think he has finger on the pulse as far as fans go
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Well he's keeping the club onside so he remains in a job, he knows how much butter is going on his bread every morning.(Barnes)
 
Here’s an ALS article from another “fan” who sounds like we’ve pissed on his chips too

New Dawn Fades

August 23, 2019
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It was on the sofa with a glass of wine in hand when I heard the news. A particularly engaging episode of Sons of Anarchy had meant my phone had been ignored like a stocking present on Boxing Day. When I came to open WhatsApp and saw the influx of messages awaiting me it was obvious something big had happened. Reading about the potential new investment suddenly it felt as though Christmas had returned.

Of course, nothing is done and dusted yet and if our track record is anything to go by then a collapse in the deal is almost expected, but what if we dare to dream? Michael Dell is the 25th richest man on the planet. Early reports are indicating he may be a silent investor, passively sitting on rising stock perhaps. So it may be too early to get too excited. However, the consortium make money. That’s what they do. If they were to purchase Sunderland it would clearly be with a view to capitalising on the growth potential that is dormant without investment in playing staff.

The reported sale value is £40m which means that for all their work over the past 15 months or so, Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven and Juan Sartori are unlikely to make any immediate profit. Retaining a share in the club would however see them benefit should there be a meteoric rise to the promised land of the Premier League. What does this tell us? I guess ultimately it tells us that they trust this deal. They are prepared to sit and wait and partake in either journey of Sunderland football club or a small share in the growth on offer.

Why are they selling? Well it could be that they really do want the best for the club. I don’t doubt that actually. After all it is in their financial interests to do well at Sunderland. It could also be because they have realised that turning this ship around is going to need a bigger engine and they don’t have the budget for that.

Whilst it is great to hear the billions under discussion, remember we have history with an American billionaire and if you look at American ownership of football clubs it hasn’t always gone swimmingly. Under Stewart and Charlie the word commonly used was sustainability. The club needs to be in a position where they are not overstretched and in debt to their owners. Morally I do object to the elitism that is afforded to rich clubs at the expense of your Burys or Boltons but it’s kind of hard not to get a bit excited by the prospect this investment could offer. Not one, but three billionaires.

I wait with bated breath for the ink to dry but I understand that it is all at an advanced stage. There were rumours flying around yes. There was a podcast yes. Now Google interest in four men from America has spiked on Wearside. Hold on everyone, who knows where this rollercoaster is going next.
 
MLE1 said:
Here’s an ALS article from another “fan” who sounds like we’ve pissed on his chips too

New Dawn Fades

August 23, 2019
You must be logged on to see external links





It was on the sofa with a glass of wine in hand when I heard the news. A particularly engaging episode of Sons of Anarchy had meant my phone had been ignored like a stocking present on Boxing Day. When I came to open WhatsApp and saw the influx of messages awaiting me it was obvious something big had happened. Reading about the potential new investment suddenly it felt as though Christmas had returned.

Of course, nothing is done and dusted yet and if our track record is anything to go by then a collapse in the deal is almost expected, but what if we dare to dream? Michael Dell is the 25th richest man on the planet. Early reports are indicating he may be a silent investor, passively sitting on rising stock perhaps. So it may be too early to get too excited. However, the consortium make money. That’s what they do. If they were to purchase Sunderland it would clearly be with a view to capitalising on the growth potential that is dormant without investment in playing staff.

The reported sale value is £40m which means that for all their work over the past 15 months or so, Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven and Juan Sartori are unlikely to make any immediate profit. Retaining a share in the club would however see them benefit should there be a meteoric rise to the promised land of the Premier League. What does this tell us? I guess ultimately it tells us that they trust this deal. They are prepared to sit and wait and partake in either journey of Sunderland football club or a small share in the growth on offer.

Why are they selling? Well it could be that they really do want the best for the club. I don’t doubt that actually. After all it is in their financial interests to do well at Sunderland. It could also be because they have realised that turning this ship around is going to need a bigger engine and they don’t have the budget for that.

Whilst it is great to hear the billions under discussion, remember we have history with an American billionaire and if you look at American ownership of football clubs it hasn’t always gone swimmingly. Under Stewart and Charlie the word commonly used was sustainability. The club needs to be in a position where they are not overstretched and in debt to their owners. Morally I do object to the elitism that is afforded to rich clubs at the expense of your Burys or Boltons but it’s kind of hard not to get a bit excited by the prospect this investment could offer. Not one, but three billionaires.

I wait with bated breath for the ink to dry but I understand that it is all at an advanced stage. There were rumours flying around yes. There was a podcast yes. Now Google interest in four men from America has spiked on Wearside. Hold on everyone, who knows where this rollercoaster is going next.
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What an embarrassing opening paragraph. Proper cringe fest :oops:
 
Wonder if the plan for the new guys to invest personally and not with MSD means we could use the Dell name as sponsorship to get around FFP if ever needed?....bit like how city do it but probably nowhere near as much as the 500 million deal they have.
 
I like these structured deals where the rich one takes a minority stake. Allows them to buy in later and make their mates rich later.

As an aside, investors aren’t stupid and if you think people invest to not make money then you’re insane. A clever investor realises here that an investment of £100m will easily see us back in the PL in two years....and they also realise we bring that money back in without even kicking a ball in TV money.

It’s on lads. It’s on.
 
Brian Griffin said:
I like these structured deals where the rich one takes a minority stake. Allows them to buy in later and make their mates rich later.

As an aside, investors aren’t stupid and if you think people invest to not make money then you’re insane. A clever investor realises here that an investment of £100m will easily see us back in the PL in two years....and they also realise we bring that money back in without even kicking a ball in TV money.

It’s on lads. It’s on.
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I don't think 100m would guarantee us premiership football these days
 
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