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I'm forever skinny fat. I have a non descript shape. Don't look out of shape but hiding underneath my shirt are two watery bags of nothing sitting just to the side of my lower back. Ive been doing 3 minute planks pretty much every day for years, eating relatively healthy gym or swim 3 times a week. Where am I going wrong? Just can't shift those flabby apendiges. Any success stories / short cuts?

Generally when I have a few consistent months of exercise and good diet I just get smaller but no less flabby!
 


Define eating relatively healthy. No amount of exercise will reduce your body fat % if you're eating more calories than you use

What are you doing at the gym or swimming?
 
I probably eat around 1500 calories. I avoid sugar and have about 2 or 3 huel shakes a day and a decent meal although probably too many microwave meals at the mo. I swim 3 times a week - 1k - I should probably be doing a bit more. When I was going to the gym I was eating more. I might try the old 5:2 diet. Anyone tried that? Thanks for responses btw.
 
I probably eat around 1500 calories. I avoid sugar and have about 2 or 3 huel shakes a day and a decent meal although probably too many microwave meals at the mo. I swim 3 times a week - 1k - I should probably be doing a bit more. When I was going to the gym I was eating more. I might try the old 5:2 diet. Anyone tried that? Thanks for responses btw.

Huel shakes are 500 calories each, so that's 1500 there excluding your meal, depending on your "decent" meal you could already be way over what you need depending on size, weight etc.
 
I probably eat around 1500 calories. I avoid sugar and have about 2 or 3 huel shakes a day and a decent meal although probably too many microwave meals at the mo. I swim 3 times a week - 1k - I should probably be doing a bit more. When I was going to the gym I was eating more. I might try the old 5:2 diet. Anyone tried that? Thanks for responses btw.
Before 5:2 or whatever I would record an honest food diary for a month or two. I made a massive difference by reducing chocolate, pancakes, beer etc even before making any drastic lifestyle changes.

Exercise is just a bit of a boost in terms of fat loss.
 
Huel shakes are 500 calories each, so that's 1500 there excluding your meal, depending on your "decent" meal you could already be way over what you need depending on size, weight etc.

Yeah I would guess my portion size is a little under the full 3 scoops just cos I prefer the consistency a bit thinner. Have to say after 2 years of it I'm getting a bit fed up of it. It's mainly convenience. A full Sunday prep for the weeks meals is a better idea for sure but it's a faf.
Before 5:2 or whatever I would record an honest food diary for a month or two. I made a massive difference by reducing chocolate, pancakes, beer etc even before making any drastic lifestyle changes.

Exercise is just a bit of a boost in terms of fat loss.

Yeah it's all about the diet. I'd probably have a more honest view of things if I wrote them down.
 
Before 5:2 or whatever I would record an honest food diary for a month or two. I made a massive difference by reducing chocolate, pancakes, beer etc even before making any drastic lifestyle changes.

Exercise is just a bit of a boost in terms of fat loss.

Solid advice, as ever, from Mr Freestein. You probably won't need to food diary for every but certainly a month is a good indication of how much you're consuming on average and you can then compare that to what you need to be consuming to hit your targets. My weight had started to head north recently so I've gone back to recording for a while to recalibrate myself.

Bear in mind that food packaging is up to 20% out calories wise on the label. I've even seen stuff recently with the carb content being less than the sugar content... And, being diabetic, carbs are really important to me - there are some labels where I've just looked at them and gone 'no way is that accurate' - adjusted my insulin to what I think it should be and ultimately been proved correct by my post-meal glucose. I'm talking by a factor of 50% here. Only real way to get really accurate, if that's what you desire, is to eat fresh food that will have standard levels of calories that you can easily cross-reference.

Keep us updated on how you get on mate.
 
Solid advice, as ever, from Mr Freestein. You probably won't need to food diary for every but certainly a month is a good indication of how much you're consuming on average and you can then compare that to what you need to be consuming to hit your targets. My weight had started to head north recently so I've gone back to recording for a while to recalibrate myself.

Bear in mind that food packaging is up to 20% out calories wise on the label. I've even seen stuff recently with the carb content being less than the sugar content... And, being diabetic, carbs are really important to me - there are some labels where I've just looked at them and gone 'no way is that accurate' - adjusted my insulin to what I think it should be and ultimately been proved correct by my post-meal glucose. I'm talking by a factor of 50% here. Only real way to get really accurate, if that's what you desire, is to eat fresh food that will have standard levels of calories that you can easily cross-reference.

Keep us updated on how you get on mate.

Cheers. Shocking that but then that's a consequence of not preparing food yourself. The diet part is considerably more complicated than the exercise part!
 
If I wasn't looking the way I wanted after drinking pricey health shakes, I'd soon be knocking them on the head. How much do they cost, about £2 each, two or three times a day? Ouch.
 
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If you have love handles but aren't too overfat, slow bulk for a while without any breaks, and then cut.
 
Took a week off the exercise cos I had a bug the end of the previous week; went out on the Saturday, didn't get round to eating till the evening, drank too much spewed up some noodle box thingy I had and didn't eat much the next day.

Dropped about an inch off my waist and although I've lost a little off my biceps, I look much more defined.

Think I've done an intermittent fast completely by accident with satisfying results. :lol:
 
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Define eating relatively healthy. No amount of exercise will reduce your body fat % if you're eating more calories than you use

What are you doing at the gym or swimming?
I’ve always looked at it the other way:

Eat more and build as much muscle as I possibly can, and then when I do reduce calories which is usually only around June or July if I’ve got a beach holiday booked and/or I’m doing something which might entail not wearing a shirt in public, the fat certainly comes off a lot easier. There’s a few caveats with this approach though, to say the least.

My natural weight these days is around 14 and a half stone, and even if I get up to something like 20% body fat, it still looks better than someone who is 12 and a half stone with 7% body fat who fully clothed looks exactly the same as someone at 12 and a half stone who doesn’t go to the gym at all. Being lean is completely overrated.
 
Sack the planks mate, that wont do fcuk all to the excess adipose tissue . You will be consuming 3000+ calories ON AVERAGE a day easy to have achieved weight gain. If you calorie counted you would see that ( not saying to do that )

Your problem is the lack of understanding of how to lose fat , which is to be in a caloric deficit. Teach yourself this and you're onto a winner.

To summarise...

Your healthy diet is in a surplus of calories over your current daily expenditure.

Good luck
 
Sack the planks mate, that wont do fcuk all to the excess adipose tissue . You will be consuming 3000+ calories ON AVERAGE a day easy to have achieved weight gain. If you calorie counted you would see that ( not saying to do that )

Your problem is the lack of understanding of how to lose fat , which is to be in a caloric deficit. Teach yourself this and you're onto a winner.

To summarise...

Your healthy diet is in a surplus of calories over your current daily expenditure.

Good luck
I always laugh when people talk about calorie deficits. I lean towards the “endomorphic” end of the spectrum and if I’m eating properly for my body weight and have around 30g of protein with each meal, eating is a struggle and even getting up to 2000 (!) calories a day is hard work as I constantly feel full throughout the day. And I’m someone who as I said in my last post on this thread couldn’t give a shit about looking “lean.”

When I’m training, I need to eat 3000-3500 calories a day (at least) just to maintain my current weight, never mind put weight it on.

If people were eating properly, by which I mean eating staple foods and cutting out shit with empty calories and/or no nutritional value, the last thing they’d be thinking about is calorie deficits.
 
I always laugh when people talk about calorie deficits. I lean towards the “endomorphic” end of the spectrum and if I’m eating properly for my body weight and have around 30g of protein with each meal, eating is a struggle and even getting up to 2000 (!) calories a day is hard work as I constantly feel full throughout the day. And I’m someone who as I said in my last post on this thread couldn’t give a shit about looking “lean.”

When I’m training, I need to eat 3000-3500 calories a day (at least) just to maintain my current weight, never mind put weight it on.

If people were eating properly, by which I mean eating staple foods and cutting out shit with empty calories and/or no nutritional value, the last thing they’d be thinking about is calorie deficits.

Well it's literally the only way to lose fat, so personally for me it would be something I'd ensure if I wanted to lose fat.
 
Chest, Belly and love handle fat is the last to go on an Ectomorph (or skinny fat). As long as your eating under maintenance it will eventually shift but it stubborn. Core exercises like Squats Deadlifts Bench Press alongside some cardio will speed it up.

Maybe some test boosters, ashwaganda ksm-66 helps to keep energy levels up when your eating under maintenance, helps recovery and sleep.
 
Chest, Belly and love handle fat is the last to go on an Ectomorph (or skinny fat). As long as your eating under maintenance it will eventually shift but it stubborn. Core exercises like Squats Deadlifts Bench Press alongside some cardio will speed it up.

Maybe some test boosters, ashwaganda ksm-66 helps to keep energy levels up when your eating under maintenance, helps recovery and sleep.

:lol: Stopped reading at ectomorph. There's no such thing. It was made up by a quack psychologist.
 

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