The failure of Ross



Interesting that you say that, but surely the board have to set goals for the management to attain within the time frame of a full season, its up to JR to show if he is capable enough to attain those goals.

I agree set him a target but 100 points?
People will remember that and it will be used against him if we don’t get off to a flier
 
I agree set him a target but 100 points?
People will remember that and it will be used against him if we don’t get off to a flier

Then its up to him to make sure that is the case, after all he will have resources at his disposal that not many managers in this league will have, after all his job is to get this club back into the championship, so this time next year we are waiting for the fixture list for that division, not the one we are currently in, so there has to be targets set which he has to attain if he wishes to continue to manage this club.
 
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Some fans really don’t listen, the owners have said it was a 2 year project to get out of this division, he’s not getting sacked no matter how much whinging you do


Well if you can’t work it out then stop watching football
So you’re honestly telling me that , team selection and tactics had nothing to do with our poor end to the season, our form had been sh!t for weeks prior, who carries the can for this?
 
some would see us in the conference rather than complain......cos their git dedicated n'all that

Many said similar to this when we were in the premier league, so in that regard nothing has changed on that score, however saying that we do have better representation these days, thanks to Ghandi Floss and Co.
 
Get over it mate... He's going nowhere... Sacking every manager at the first sign of adversity has got us rooted firmly to league-one

That’s absolute bollocks. It’s become like a meme on here, ffs. Actually, sacking managers has saved us from the drop many times.

Bit lengthy this, but anyhoo...

Recruiting incompetent managers is what got us in league one. Every single one of our recent-ish managers, barring perhaps Poyet, has either been rightfully sacked, or left of their own accord. The only manager who looked like he might be taking us places was Allardyce. We didn’t sack him, he left. That is when things really started to go pear shaped for SAFC.

Moyes was a disgrace, nothing redeeming about his tenure, but no - despite taking us down after an utterly humiliating season, after a very decent run in the PL, we should’ve kept him ‘cos sacking managers is bad’.

Then we had Grayson. Disastrous appointment who looked like he could well be taking us down as we struggled and flapped about, no work ethic instilled in the players, showing zero signs of any shoots of recovery. We threw the dice and sacked him in the hope a new manager might save us. Despite looking out of his depth, apparently we should’ve kept him ‘cos sacking managers is bad’.

Along comes Coleman. Again, fails to motivate the team and, for only the second time in our history, we drop to the third division. Despite that, we should’ve kept him ‘cos sacking managers is bad’.

Now we have Ross. Now, it’s debatable whether he’s going to prove himself next season, I don’t know either way, but I doubt it. What I do know and what isn’t up for debate is that it isn’t sacking managers that has got us where we are, it’s the dismal appointments we’ve made. If we had good managers, they’d still be in a job. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

All a manager has to do for now is show that they can move the club forward and learn from their mistakes from game to game. If they don’t do that, it’s just plain madness to keep them.
 
Get over it mate... He's going nowhere... Sacking every manager at the first sign of adversity has got us rooted firmly to league-one
First sign? 60 odds games and we got worse as the season went on playing mundane and negative football. If we’d sacked Moyes sooner we may still have been a premier league team.

That’s absolute bollocks. It’s become like a meme on here, ffs. Actually, sacking managers has saved us from the drop many times.

Bit lengthy this, but anyhoo...

Recruiting incompetent managers is what got us in league one. Every single one of our recent-ish managers, barring perhaps Poyet, has either been rightfully sacked, or left of their own accord. The only manager who looked like he might be taking us places was Allardyce. We didn’t sack him, he left. That is when things really started to go pear shaped for SAFC.

Moyes was a disgrace, nothing redeeming about his tenure, but no - despite taking us down after an utterly humiliating season, after a very decent run in the PL, we should’ve kept him ‘cos sacking managers is bad’.

Then we had Grayson. Disastrous appointment who looked like he could well be taking us down as we struggled and flapped about, no work ethic instilled in the players, showing zero signs of any shoots of recovery. We threw the dice and sacked him in the hope a new manager might save us. Despite looking out of his depth, apparently we should’ve kept him ‘cos sacking managers is bad’.

Along comes Coleman. Again, fails to motivate the team and, for only the second time in our history, we drop to the third division. Despite that, we should’ve kept him ‘cos sacking managers is bad’.

Now we have Ross. Now, it’s debatable whether he’s going to prove himself next season, I don’t know either way, but I doubt it. What I do know and what isn’t up for debate is that it isn’t sacking managers that has got us where we are, it’s the dismal appointments we’ve made. If we had good managers, they’d still be in a job. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

All a manager has to do for now is show that they can move the club forward and learn from their mistakes from game to game. If they don’t do that, it’s just plain madness to keep them.
Absolutely superb analysis.
 
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First sign? 60 odds games and we got worse as the season went on playing mundane and negative football. If we’d sacked Moyes sooner we may still have been a premier league team.


Absolutely superb analysis.

Absolutely this! ‘First sign of adversity’! It beggars belief! :lol:

Cheers for the compliment. I could’ve gone into much more depth, but tbh it just falls on deaf ears. They’ve convinced themselves it’s sacking managers that’s the problem.
 

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