Game of Thrones season 8



I think most people assumed Daenerys wouldn’t end up on the throne. Most people assumed she’d be killed, most likely by Jon, sacrificed for the greater good or because she’d gone mad.

The way they did was crap in my opinion. Cared more about toasting peasants than getting to the person who’d fucked her off. Completely out of character and she’s ended up as a bigger villain than Cersei who got to die off screen in the arms of her lover. Shite.
That's the point though isn't it. A never ending circle of people who depose bad kings,then end up being just as bad because they abuse their power or are under so much pressure that they lose the plot.

So Cersei and Jaimie,when all the power and riches are stripped away,were just two people who loved each other. Robert was just a fat **** who was burnt out.....the mad King started off benevolent,but the pressure (and or genes) made him lose the plot and attempt mass murder.

Now Dany, traumatised by the loss of all her friends,rejected by her nephew,sees kings landing,the place that refused to love her,stood backing Cersei while not only did Dany sacrifice two of her children,they also watched as Cersei didn't help save mankind,staying in their selfish,insular castle while she lost Ser Jorah and others. Then,they stand and watch as her most loyal remaining friend is beheaded.

I think from her perspective,faced with the option of "I can",she snapped and thought fuck them. Like Varys predicted,which is why he tried so hard and outed himself.

The only two people in the show who weren't selfish and corruptible like that were Ned Stark and Jon Snow. Even Rob was a twat who bought in to his own King of the North fame and abused it to shag a lass he knew he shouldn't.
 
I'm glad someone enjoyed it.

She's a good actress and has nailed it this series. The writing has been lazy as hell though and doesn't fit in with what the previous series have been building up to in my opinion. Don't think she's done the job she set out to do either
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She was always going to be the mad queen mind, in fairness the books make it more obvious than the show.

The books make it clear that she is prone to madness and her advisors reign her in, with her advisors now dead or her not trusting them she has finally succumbed to it.

She mentioned that the people of kings landing should have overthrown Cersei like the slaves of Mereen did and likened them to the enemy for not doing that.

Don’t get me wrong it was rushed like crazy but it was always the end game for Dany.
 
There's all that about Danys losing her advisors but also she's seen how much Jon Snow is respected by others to the point it turned Varys. She said in this episode if she couldn't rule through love she'd do it through fear. It's been building up all season, not sure why some people are saying it's at odds with the character.
 
I'm backing a gendry arya partnership for the throne. Arya will now want to leave her violent past behind and will go back to him. Jon doesn't want the crown and is part mad targareyn. Sansa might fancy it but tyrion will be too depressed by it all to join up with her. Then the game of thrones all starts again....
 
Really poor to end to that episode like for Cersei and Jamie, years of feuds to have it done like that is shite.
It would be less realistic if Arya Stark got through all the crowds, past the fire and falling buildings, past the mountain, had a big shitty speach scene with cercei in the middle Of the chaos and then killed her, while they are in an utter war zone. The cynics would pick that apart too. Buildings fall down after being blitzed.

I had no real problem with the episode. Too many fans of this show think they own in. Just enjoy what it is, it’s not on your side though. Just take in what’s happening and go with it ffs.
 
It would be less realistic if Arya Stark got through all the crowds, past the fire and falling buildings, past the mountain, had a big shitty speach scene with cercei in the middle Of the chaos and then killed her, while they are in an utter war zone. The cynics would pick that apart too. Buildings fall down after being blitzed.

I had no real problem with the episode. Too many fans of this show think they own in. Just enjoy what it is, it’s not on your side though. Just take in what’s happening and go with it ffs.
Top post, agree 100%
 
It would be less realistic if Arya Stark got through all the crowds, past the fire and falling buildings, past the mountain, had a big shitty speach scene with cercei in the middle Of the chaos and then killed her, while they are in an utter war zone. The cynics would pick that apart too. Buildings fall down after being blitzed.

I had no real problem with the episode. Too many fans of this show think they own in. Just enjoy what it is, it’s not on your side though. Just take in what’s happening and go with it ffs.
When you build things up for years theres generally meant to be a pay off. There hasn't really been any, which has been surprising. Teased Jon and the night king for years and never really faced off properly, umpteen people after Cersei and nobody gets the kill/reward. Just seemed a bit lazy and avoided making any big moments imo...
 
It would be less realistic if Arya Stark got through all the crowds, past the fire and falling buildings, past the mountain, had a big shitty speach scene with cercei in the middle Of the chaos and then killed her, while they are in an utter war zone. The cynics would pick that apart too. Buildings fall down after being blitzed.

I had no real problem with the episode. Too many fans of this show think they own in. Just enjoy what it is, it’s not on your side though. Just take in what’s happening and go with it ffs.
Didn’t care who killed her but I wanted a satisfying, gruesome painful death for her like Joffrey, walder frey or Ramsay :lol:

Certainly not dying off screen as the vulnerable mother in the arms of her lover while romantic, sad music plays.

Qyburns death was class :lol:
 
I'm not sure what some people were expecting. It's took 10 years to tell the bulk of the story, that hasn't all been done in this series. I keep saying if they had done 10 episodes the same ines would be complaining about it being dragged out and full of filler episodes.
There isn't an ending the same people would be happy with let's be honest mate.
 
I think in some ways it's stuck to not doing the expected. Everybody wanted some brutal death for cersei at the hands of a hero, instead she dies boringly under some rubble. There were no grand moments of heroism, just the hideousness of war - dragon war . Its purposely not following the traditional happy plot routes. So people are pissed off
 
Jaime is the only thing that's annoyed me really. His story arc makes no sense- what was the point of the last 5 seasons? He spent year upon year gradually turning good then at the end just goes "na fuck it, I shouldn't have bothered."

Fewming me

She tried to have him bumped off but he ended up being an absolute cuck

Did he even ring the bells? He saved the people of kings landing once but now he didn’t care he just wanted to save his sister/lover ?!?
 
When the dragons killed one child in an earlier series she was distraught. Yet now doesn't she give a shite that she's just killed thousands?

If it was all about Cercei why not just go straight to the red keep once the armies and all that were sorted out?

Do people not pay attention like?

Cersei wanted her to slaughter the civilians as she didn't think she'd be capable.

Danys has flipped at the meal they were treating Jon as king. Verys had now told everyone Jon is the true king. She is not the nice Danys anymore and is now showing the temper of a Targaryian themad king.
 
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I contrast to a lot of views, I think what they did with Drogon was quite cleverly written. They’ve been making out that the dragons are these super weapons for years now, and now we finally see that they actually are. The one that got killed was ambushed, and given a bit of practice they are pretty good at dodging the arrows. The whole Golden Company thing was that they were super soldiers, but they were frazzled in seconds when up against a dragon. Turns out you can win a war with air power alone after all.

This. Excellent post.

Absolutely lived this series so far. No one was going to be happy and at the end of the day the dragon was a super weapon that was finally unleashed.

Still lots of talk about who will win the iron throne. Need to remind people that the iron throne is slag under hundreds if tons of rubble.
 
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As soon as it overtook the books the writing has been atrocious. Turns out these guys are excellent at adapting books, awful at story writing.

That last episode has got to be one of the most unsatisfactory bits of TV ever. Totally out of character for Jamie, Danaerys and Grey Worm. What a waste.


The one who has spent 7 series harping on about protecting the weak who then just massacred a whole city.

What was out of character about Jamie? He’s always loved Cersei and she was pregnant with his child. He went back to try and save her because he loves her and can’t help it. He always has. They died together I didn’t mind that.

Grey worms behaviour was a bit odd although I think he was full of anger due to his lass getting her head chopped off.

Daenerys story has been a bit rushed however the signs have been there for the last few episodes and she is the mad kings daughter, she was always going to turn.
 

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