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Missiles being hoyed all game from North Stand Upper

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sidneyeric said:
The club are not at fault for a bunch of shit fans throwing stuff man, blame the wankers throwing stuff, Other than restrict them next time I'm not sure what the club could have done.
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I assume you aren’t seated in the north stand? This is something that escalated throughout the game, was 1-2 things first goal, 3-4 things second goal then they seen it was winding people up. Fourth goal there must have been over 100 items come over the top, similarly for our fourth goal. There was some fat lad in the front row within touching distance of a copper who threw several items and nothing was said to him. Coppers refused to act, stewards were powerless to act according to them. So yes it was 100% the clubs fault for letting it escalate. They caused the post match triuble
 

two left feet said:
What’s your problem with understanding that I agree with that?

I’m only disagreeing that we’re stood about laughing which I did not witness at any point.

Police presence at matches is ineffectual, I agree.
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For a number of years now Police presence at games has thinned out considerably.
This has been due to little or no trouble at matches, which is all good all round.
Yesterday should have been classed as a high profile game by the Club and policed accordingly. It wasn’t.
FFS I think we all knew it was going to be Daft Lads Day Out for them.
When was the last time they took 2,500 plus on a 430 mile round trip?
 
Didn't notice any of this from the south west corner. Sad reading this thread.
 
tunstallhill said:
sorry like but as much as i feel sorry for the people who had to deal with it, and how shit it was overall, the club cannot be held responisble in anyway for what they did. we have had away fans up there for years and years, including the mags several time, with very little of this type of thing. what were the club supposed to do and how were they supposed to know to do it?

the only people who are responisble fo the whole thing are the bell ends doing it.
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The club have a duty of care. If they stepped on it early when it was isolated incidents it never would have escalated. Was only goals 4 and 5 that were a major problem, when it was in excess of 100 items coming down on us at a time. And if they can’t control the fans, they have the power to stop the game and exclude individuals from the ground before restarting play.

They agreed to move the away fans and as part of this process, they will have had to agree with the health and safety executive action plans in the case of every viable threat including this. Where was this action plan today? Because it didn’t get executed, and that is a major failing on the clubs part and they should rightly feel the force of the law against them. The biggest problem today was the lack of action from a combination of NP and SAFC.
 
Make cov pay over the odds for netting to be installed for their visit, reduce away numbers too.


If they don't and can't pay for this then ban all cov fans
 
Ive just messaged our CEO.

Another who was sitting in the North with my daughter,we were sitting in our seats to the right from the pitch whilst nothing seemed to come our way most objects seemed to be centre and left.
Yesterday was sickening.
Football really is turning back to the dark days.
Society is screwed.
Fans thinking its ok to throw objects at children.
The powers that be then stand there and do nothing.

Said it along time ago awful choice to move away support to upper level.
 
The Rat said:
This is absolute nonsense like sorry, the exact opposite is true its absolutely the clubs responsibility, its nobody elses in the slightest. Its this attitude that allows these things to happen, you can't just assume all fans will be well behaved man, you need protocols in place. Nobody searched, bottles sold inside the stadium to a massive away following to make some extra cash, lack of police and stewards in the right areas, lack of action after it takes place, allowing it to continue, lack of acknowledgement that anything has happened

You couldn't be further from the truth.
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havent we sold bottles of beer to the away fans for the last 7 years? how were the club supposed to know that on this occasion the coventry fans were going to go on like complete morons?

once it started the police and stewards should have been able to at least try and deal with it, which it seems like they didnt, however if a human being throws something off the top tier into the crowd below, ultimately the person responsible is that human. i'm just confused as to how its never been a problem before
 
tunstallhill said:
havent we sold bottles of beer to the away fans for the last 7 years? how were the club supposed to know that on this occasion the coventry fans were going to go on like complete morons?

once it started the police and stewards should have been able to at least try and deal with it, which it seems like they didnt, however if a human being throws something off the top tier into the crowd below, ultimately the person responsible is that human. i'm just confused as to how its never been a problem before
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The plod should have gone in and smashed the initial culprits with an asp in the pyatt, that would have nipped it in the bud.
 
TravellingMackem said:
The club have a duty of care. If they stepped on it early when it was isolated incidents it never would have escalated. Was only goals 4 and 5 that were a major problem, when it was in excess of 100 items coming down on us at a time. And if they can’t control the fans, they have the power to stop the game and exclude individuals from the ground before restarting play.

They agreed to move the away fans and as part of this process, they will have had to agree with the health and safety executive action plans in the case of every viable threat including this. Where was this action plan today? Because it didn’t get executed, and that is a major failing on the clubs part and they should rightly feel the force of the law against them. The biggest problem today was the lack of action from a combination of NP and SAFC.
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the club do have a duty of care, and that is to employ stewards and police to manage this type of thing. sounds to me like the stewards and police couldnt really be arsed to try and even start to deal with it. in the heat of the moment i'm not sure what 'the club' could have done, other than trust the people they pay and employ to deal with it. maybe a giant net is the answer. there is loads of grounds, i.e st james, where the away fans are above home fans, like ours has been for years, and it never has appeared to be a problem before. thats why, for me, the blame lies pretty much entirely on the coventry fans
 
Just remembered - what did they set off after the first goal?

The smoke smelled really acrid in the SEC and was much worse than normal flares.
 
two left feet said:
What’s your problem with understanding that I agree with that?

I’m only disagreeing that we’re stood about laughing which I did not witness at any point.

Police presence at matches is ineffectual, I agree.
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This absolutely did happen. There was a ground of 20 odd year olds who stood all game at the front surrounded by police, yet were allowed to throw things despite being in touching distance of the police. Two stewards leaned over and were mocking our fans and laughing, hence the large surge of anger backwards by a whole stand around 80 minute mark.
 
TravellingMackem said:
This absolutely did happen. There was a ground of 20 odd year olds who stood all game at the front surrounded by police, yet were allowed to throw things despite being in touching distance of the police. Two stewards leaned over and were mocking our fans and laughing, hence the large surge of anger backwards by a whole stand around 80 minute mark.
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I'm not saying you're lying but I find this so hard to believe. If it's true it's utterly disgraceful and the stewards in question need their licence took off them. Heading back to the 80s football, it's sickening and so sad to see.
 
TravellingMackem said:
This absolutely did happen. There was a ground of 20 odd year olds who stood all game at the front surrounded by police, yet were allowed to throw things despite being in touching distance of the police. Two stewards leaned over and were mocking our fans and laughing, hence the large surge of anger backwards by a whole stand around 80 minute mark.
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Hope they've got the twats on cctv
 
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