viccarlton
Striker
Yeah it’s great watching the skills that the modern day players have perfected in how to con referees, maybe we should have end of season awards for *simulation* of the season.
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Voice of fair play
Striker
You don't believe that mate, you far too old and wise
I reckon you hate that diving as much as the next bloke.
Seriously though yeah take your point about the modern day player.
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bernardbresslaw
Striker
That's some jump that mind, not sure where I said that at all. What I'm saying is I don't want VAR to spoil my matchday experience, that is more important to me than all of the football on the telly, but obviously not to you. You just want the correct decisions at all cost.
Because it's just how it is. The referee isn't really a bastard you know - we're just having a bit of fun on a Saturday (or Sunday, or Monday, or Friday night etc. etc)
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bernardbresslaw
Striker
That's very true. Football is pretty unique in being a low scoring game. so when you score a goal you go mental because you now it could be the winning goal, it's not like a try, or a basket (110-112 ffs), or a six in cricket.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Isn’t that the problem though mate, you know he is not a bastard as you seem sensible , too many are not and actually believe they are cheats.
Already read several posts this week saying refs may have a agenda against us because we have had 2 refs overturned and that the ref on sat cheated us, anyone can understand fans getting angry at refs at the game we have al done it, but too many on here really believe they cheats and come up with loads and loads of absolute bollocks,days and days later.
Too many fans just don’t treat it as a bit of fun when ref makes understandable mistakes
In fact one person has said 5 diffrent refs had a agenda against us in the past!
That’s really my point I don’t necessarily want right decisions at all costs I want and think fans should accept without VAR refs will always make mistakes and accept that.
Rather than the hatred abuse and calling them cheats
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bernardbresslaw
Striker
I get that but I think most of what you say are just daft buggers sounding off on an internet forum.
What do you think would have happened if the ref had simply given the goal and restarted the game?
Voice of fair play
Striker
You would imagine they are just daft buggers, but there are loads of them,
Read loads and loads of posts on here when we were in the premier league saying we get nowt from refs only big clubs get them.
Yet now we the big club in this league I have read loads of posts saying refs giving us nowt because determined to stand up to the big club!
And they genuinely believe that!
Not sure what you mean on your second point mate as did not see the actual incident are you on about the Derby Match as did not see it.
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stephen cartwright
Guest
A lot of the arguments used against var, are the same used in every sport that now accepts video assistance and it has improved the games immeasurably
bernardbresslaw
Striker
Yep the Derby game. My point is that in real time it looked a goal all day, no-one would have batted an eye if it had just been given - it's VAR that has pt the referee in the spotlight and hence all the stick that's come his way - so how's that helping him?
Really? and this is from 2014, they hate it even more now.
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Voice of fair play
Striker
Yep the Derby game. My point is that in real time it looked a goal all day, no-one would have batted an eye if it had just been given - it's VAR that has pt the referee in the spotlight and hence all the stick that's come his way - so how's that helping him?
Well that’s probably a fair point because the ref gets blamed for everything anyway whether fair or not.
Amazingly even when a player dives to get a pen the ref gets the blame.
The ridiculous culiture of football is to not blame the cheater but to blame the person for not spotting the cheat!
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stephen cartwright
Guest
I’m sorry it’s going to happen and is a really easy to understand systemYep the Derby game. My point is that in real time it looked a goal all day, no-one would have batted an eye if it had just been given - it's VAR that has pt the referee in the spotlight and hence all the stick that's come his way - so how's that helping him?
Really? and this is from 2014, they hate it even more now.
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I’ve answered this question time and again. If people hate it or go on and on about what if this happens, or that, delays etc etc I switch off
The laws of the game are as clear as day. The problem being the different officials decide to apply them differently from one game to the next
bernardbresslaw
Striker
It used to be if you were inline with the last defender you were onside, but now they're measuring it with lasers.
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stephen cartwright
Guest
A millimetre offside is offside.
This system is more accurate than the whim of a linesperson giving “the benefit to the attacker”
That’s nowhere in the laws of the game, “this benefit”slaver
As I said it’s all down to the incompetence of English officials
AC Mack
Striker
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stephen cartwright
Guest
Maybe, but that’s not what will happen
AC Mack
Striker
oldboy
Striker
I was against it prior to the world cup, and I'm still not a massive fan of it. But like brexit, swimming against the tide of inevitable change does no good for anybody.
I'm 29 so can't really remember keepers being able to pick the ball up from a back pass, but I remember loads doing so. My point is it takes a while for people to get used to change. They was no way the system was going to implement seamlessly, and it will always be susceptible to human error. But the more people rally against it, the longer it'll take to get it somewhere that is widely accepted.
I'm 29 so can't really remember keepers being able to pick the ball up from a back pass, but I remember loads doing so. My point is it takes a while for people to get used to change. They was no way the system was going to implement seamlessly, and it will always be susceptible to human error. But the more people rally against it, the longer it'll take to get it somewhere that is widely accepted.
hank williams
Striker
Because most sports including cricket Tennis rugby etc are slower than football that's why
I'm sick of repeating this one game took three minutes to decide if there was a goal recently certain a Man Utd game true they got the correct decision but it's too slow & they've had more than a year to sort this out
Once again as someone else pointed out it's caused more arguments rather than decreased them
