Universal credit: U-turn on two-child cap on benefit

I guess you didnt read it. It's ideal for those who knocked out three before 2017 though.
their Child benefits will stop eventually though.
Based on the thread earlier this week be less kids going to school needing breakfasts from 5 or 6 years anarl now perhaps
 


No bad thing to be fair. Rent arrears has shot up in my local housing authority. I`m honestly not just thinking of my own job either, but when you get people who have struggled suddenly get a handful of cash extra its too much of a temptation to a lot of them and they end up risking the roof over their heads. And not all of them are straight out and drink the brass or snort it or selfish reasons whatever but a lot look at their kids and think it may be nice for our billy to be the one in the class with the best trainers for a change or ive got this money so i`ll get some better stuff for our betsy
Can't do that poor rachman with his 200 houses will be on the bones. Tories would hate that. I think the preserve the tenancy angle is convenient for the tories to make sure their mates get first dibs and also to further reduce the choice of benefit claimants, to dehumanise further.
 
Can't do that poor rachman with his 200 houses will be on the bones. Tories would hate that. I think the preserve the tenancy angle is convenient for the tories to make sure their mates get first dibs and also to further reduce the choice of benefit claimants, to dehumanise further.
Thats the private vs social argument though. But tbh my view is roof over your head is no1 priority and private shouldnt exist payed for the state sector. If you want to work and pay a private landlord thats your choice, and your gamble in my experience, We should as a country hold enough housing stock so we should as taxpayers never ever have to fund a private landlords business
 
will need to change again though as grey area re lone parents.
e.g. Single mother 3 kids, born after 2017 cant claim income support once youngest child is 5, cant claim JSA as only contributions based now and hasnt worked,so no contributions and cant claim UC as has 3 kids born after 2017. What does she claim?

UC with two kids.
 
Thats the private vs social argument though. But tbh my view is roof over your head is no1 priority and private shouldnt exist payed for the state sector. If you want to work and pay a private landlord thats your choice, and your gamble in my experience, We should as a country hold enough housing stock so we should as taxpayers never ever have to fund a private landlords business
Amen brother.
 
Can't do that poor rachman with his 200 houses will be on the bones. Tories would hate that. I think the preserve the tenancy angle is convenient for the tories to make sure their mates get first dibs and also to further reduce the choice of benefit claimants, to dehumanise further.

Yes, it's far better that these people get evicted. And then find themselves unable to get any help from the local authority because being evicted non-payment is treated as intentional homelessness.

What a brilliant idea.
 
Why? Loads of people seems to be proud of being British for no apparent reason other than having been born here.
Proud of what?
Our previous success with imperialism?
Or our current devotion to socialism and equality?
I can genuinely say I’m far from proud of being British.
We’ve decided to pay the workless to have more children? :lol:
We have to realise that this generation will be the current generation soon.
 
Yes, it's far better that these people get evicted. And then find themselves unable to get any help from the local authority because being evicted non-payment is treated as intentional homelessness.

What a brilliant idea.
Nah it's far better that some scummer makes a packet out of them and has zero obligation for maintain social housing security of tenure . The primacy of capital in this country is laughable. You subscribe to the feckless poor theory by the looks, people are quite capable of paying rent and weighing the consequences of not doing. Maybe we should drop a few quid behind the till at Asda for them to purchase a subsistence calorie count based on body weight and buy them a bus pass with tickets to the job centre ?
 
Proud of what?
Our previous success with imperialism?
Or our current devotion to socialism and equality?
I can genuinely say I’m far from proud of being British.
We’ve decided to pay the workless to have more children? :lol:
We have to realise that this generation will be the current generation soon.

Mainly this.

Completely ignoring that western economic dominance is actually a bit of a flash in the pan, historically.
 
Nah it's far better that some scummer makes a packet out of them and has zero obligation for maintain social housing security of tenure . The primacy of capital in this country is laughable. You subscribe to the feckless poor theory by the looks, people are quite capable of paying rent and weighing the consequences of not doing. Maybe we should drop a few quid behind the till at Asda for them to purchase a subsistence calorie count based on body weight and buy them a bus pass with tickets to the job centre ?

I can't discern your point amidst the crazy rant. Sorry.

Two facts for you: (1) rent arrears are a major cause of homelessness in this country; (2) rent arrears will get a tenant evicted whether the landlord is a cruel profiteer, a right-on private landlord, a housing association or a local authority.
 
I can't discern your point amidst the crazy rant. Sorry.

Two facts for you: (1) rent arrears are a major cause of homelessness in this country; (2) rent arrears will get a tenant evicted whether the landlord is a cruel profiteer, a right-on private landlord, a housing association or a local authority.
And if you're not ranting about the fact that one citizen without any roof is so inpoverished that they have to chose between rent and food and that choice is taken away so that another citizen that owns 200 houses can get his bit first from the others meager sustainance, and then sees fit to complain about his precarious position on national news, you have indeed lost all morality.
It's the whole point, we need fair benefits and affordable social housing Not state fed privateer landlords with surity of income.
 
And if you're not ranting about the fact that one citizen without any roof is so inpoverished that they have to chose between rent and food and that choice is taken away so that another citizen that owns 200 houses can get his bit first from the others meager sustainance, and then sees fit to complain about his precarious position on national news, you have indeed lost all morality.
It's the whole point, we need fair benefits and affordable social housing Not state fed privateer landlords with surity of income.

1. Yes, it's terrible if people have to choose between rent and food.
2. Yes, social hosing in the country needs a major overhaul.
3. If the whole of somebody's rent is covered by housing benefit, it does not really matter who is their landlord. If that person uses their housing benefit for other things, they will get evicted and they will be unable to get any help from the local authority because they will be deemed intentionally homeless.
4. The image you keep repeating - the 200 house owner bleating on the news - is a sliver of a fraction of the private housing market.
5. A world where "morality" means "ranting" is a world where Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln were immoral.
 
will need to change again though as grey area re lone parents.
e.g. Single mother 3 kids, born after 2017 cant claim income support once youngest child is 5, cant claim JSA as only contributions based now and hasnt worked,so no contributions and cant claim UC as has 3 kids born after 2017. What does she claim?

Would claim UC but only get paid for 2 of her kids imo.
 

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