Roker avenue rapists found guilty

tunstall birdman said:
It will with some, but not with others. My only gripe is that sentences for convicted rapists, white, black, brown, or whatever, are not long enough.
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I was debating this with a mate once who said that murder is worse so the sentences should be longer and I do get that murder is worse.

But it's the mindset that flung me, ya don't imagine ever having to be put in the situation, but I think deep down if someone say killed my mother or my child or something horrific I could imagine being so angry I would kill someone and I bet other people could too.

I can't imagine... no matter how horrible someone was to me ever raping them.... its just something thats in a completely different mindset altogether and that's why I just never want people like this to ever walk the streets again.
 


Result ,these things take time .In that time unfortunately you get many saying why hasn't anything been done etc ..Easy saying why did she go to flat but rapists and predators are clever .
 
Aituk7 said:
I was debating this with a mate once who said that murder is worse so the sentences should be longer and I do get that murder is worse.

But it's the mindset that flung me, ya don't imagine ever having to be put in the situation, but I think deep down if someone say killed my mother or my child or something horrific I could imagine being so angry I would kill someone and I bet other people could too.

I can't imagine... no matter how horrible someone was to me ever raping them.... its just something thats in a completely different mindset altogether and that's why I just never want people like this to ever walk the streets again.
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The problem is, is that some victims serve a life sentence of pain, hurt and psychological scars, to a point some victims even take their own lives because of being raped. It is an horrendous crime and convicted rapists deserve longer prison time.
 
tunstall birdman said:
The problem is, is that some victims serve a life sentence of pain, hurt and psychological scars, to a point some victims even take their own lives because of being raped. It is an horrendous crime and convicted rapists deserve longer prison time.
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Sorry if I didn't get my point across well, that was my thinking exactly. The mindset behind it and the everlasting affects it can have. The sentences need to be longer.

One of the muslim grooming gang trials got completed recently and the lads who it couldn't be proved raped anyone but were definitely involved in bringing the girls to their mates/fathers/brothers..... were getting sentences of like 3 years. It's just sickening to the core.
 
jayjaysafc said:
Whoa there. It’s absolutely disgusting what they did and she is in no way to blame for what happened to her.
I am just trying to understand why she went to the flat of 2 complete strangers.
I just can’t comprehend why anyone would do that
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You must have led a sheltered life we were always invitng people back or going to other people's houses for after parties when young and full of drink .. might be naive but in 99 out if 100 cases (even with non white lads) the chances are she'd have been fine
 
Stevie Freestein II said:
Asylum seekers, so glad to escape an evil country that they rape a local woman in the country that has given them somewhere to live.
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You're attempt at logic on this is all over the place
From us importing crime to spotting rapists on a border questionnaire
Rape isn't a pass time for Muslims
 
Aituk7 said:
Sorry if I didn't get my point across well, that was my thinking exactly. The mindset behind it and the everlasting affects it can have. The sentences need to be longer.

One of the muslim grooming gang trials got completed recently and the lads who it couldn't be proved raped anyone but were definitely involved in bringing the girls to their mates/fathers/brothers..... were getting sentences of like 3 years. It's just sickening to the core.
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Being complicit in such a crime also deserves equal measure of law. Whether it's Muslim rape gangs or prostitution rackets, forcing girls into having sex, it's all rape in my eyes and demands a severe arm of the law to put a stop to it and convict heavily.
 
Bob Fleming said:
The woman fled to a nearby shop and reported the offences to police.
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...Is what convicted them, considering she willingly went into the property.

If she'd waited a week and then reported it they'd have probably gotten away with it.

Wearside Wanderer II said:
Hope they are shagged every day from big Brian.
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You're joking, right? Muslims run most prisons now man. They'll immedietly be given protection by the Muslim crew in there.
 
The Muffin Man said:
You should research Islam, it does not discriminate against women although there is little doubt some islamic cultures have chosen to.



What utter rubbish......The vast majority of sex offences in this country are actually carried out by the family members or close people to the victims. The amount of sexual violence within marriage or relationships is unreal and lets not forget its only recently that we as a country recognised rape within marriage. Before that men were raping their wives and it was legal.

The issue with these offences is they become prominent as they are strangers to the accused as the accused often arrive to the country as single blokes. But please do not for one second start bull shitting about this being a religious or racial issue, white British men have been raping their wives and kids for hundreds of years. Sadly more of these offences go undetected as when its family it is not reported as much.
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Planet earth calling. Come in.
 
dcl0sc said:
Multiculturalism might work, you never know!
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Before I write this post, just to clarify, I'm not racist even in the slightest. In fact, I'm anti-racist, and if I see racism on this board be sure that I'll be smashing that report button as hard as I can. My 2 children were born to a Black woman, who I'll love til the day I die, and my 3-day old Grandson's father is Indian. People are people. Some are good, some are bad. Race is no indication of what kind of person someone is.

(see grandson for proof. Actually I just wanted to show him off. Toppa eh. :cool:)
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But, Multiculturism does NOT work in the sense that some think it does. Or rather, in the way they want it to. If it did work, we wouldn't have so many f***ing wars all around the world. Arabs against Jews, Christians against Muslims, Palestinians against Israelis, Africans against Africans... whatever, it doesn't work. History has proved that. People of a country need to have a shared identity. Be that British, or English, or American, whatever. We all need to be playing by the same rules. Without a shared identity it's chaos.

The reason so many people are anti-immigration in this country is because some people come to this country and refuse to become British. They want to set up a little part of home in the middle of Birmingham and reject the British way of life completely. They don't integrate. That won't work, it doesn't work. The only thing it accomplishes is resentment and anger from the people who've spent their entire lifetimes building this country.

Having a mixed race population is NOT the same thing as multiculturalism. We need to stamp out racism in this country and welcome people of all nations, of course, but we need to all do it together, as one culture, ie, as Britons.
 
The Muffin Man said:
So we stop dealing with refugees going through awful situations because of these two scum bags? On that basis we should stop doing any social work/counselling or giving any help to young white men cause former Roker resident Stephen Grieveson liked raping and murdering young boys.....What a bizarre argument.
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Indeed, that is a bizarre argument you've just made
 

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