Marital rape

The article does say further on that it is mainly an issue with the over 65's. The law itself was only introduced in 1991 so it's not unreasonable for them to hold that belief.
It does point out that younger people are less inclined to have that opinion, so it is moving the right way.
Given the numbers, the probability of being tried by a jury where each member holds this belief must be near 0.
It stems from the use of "obey" in the wedding vows of that generation, which only the bride had to say. It was taken as a given that if he wanted sex, she had to allow it. Slowly that vow is dying out, but there are some who still say it.

Must admit like by today's definitions the 60s - 70's was a very rapey place.

And although I hope most blokes didn't actually rape lasses the strength of "trying it on " was probably much higher.
The articles feeling seems to be that would be rape now, so it's no wonder older men don't buy it as they just don't see their young self as rapists.

Glad I'm past it, "courting" must be a minefield now
Sadly this is very true. There was very little protection for women back then, and a closing of male ranks if women complained about assault. I don't think younger men today have a clue how bad it was.
 
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It stems from the use of "obey" in the wedding vows of that generation, which only the bride had to say. It was taken as a given that if he wanted sex, she had to allow it. Slowly that vow is dying out, but there are some who still say it.


Sadly this is very true. There was very little protection for women back then, and a closing of male ranks if women complained about assault. I don't think younger men today have a clue how bad it was.
Yes one can imagine that hierarchical environments (health, police etc) would be very difficult from that perspective
 
They were very much part of the problem. Slowly changing, but there's still work to do.
We have gender neutral toilets now and post op trannies in different sex jails. Of course opinions are changing. The question was posed by a group deliberately looking for a particular outcome. Not feeling in the mood is so far from without consent its unreal
 
We have gender neutral toilets now and post op trannies in different sex jails. Of course opinions are changing. The question was posed by a group deliberately looking for a particular outcome. Not feeling in the mood is so far from without consent its unreal
It's not always about that though, even in a marriage. There are women who've stayed with men they detest for the sake of their children, despite not wanting physical contact with him. I'm sure it works both ways, and there are men who don't want sex with their wives anymore either, but they're unlikely to be forced into it by their wives.

I remember even in the late 80s in financial services the office " girls " still had to call me Mr..
I can believe that. Did you just take it for granted, or did you let them call you by your first name?
 
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It's not always about that though, even in a marriage. There are women who've stayed with men they detest for the sake of their children, despite not wanting physical contact with him. I'm sure it works both ways, and there are men who don't want sex with their wives anymore either, but they're unlikely to be forced into it by their wives.


I can believe that. Did you just take it for granted, or did you let them call you by your first name?
It wasn't done, it would have got tongues wagging and the chief clerk was the next thing to a nun their lives would have been hell.
 
"while a third of men thought that if a woman had flirted on a date it wouldn’t be considered rape if she hadn’t explicitly consented to sex, this view was held by only 21% of women."

Hang on. If those 21% of women think flirting amounts to consent, isn't that their choice? But the law insists she's been raped?

There's a scene in a nightclub in 'Cherry 2000' where a young couple are standing with a lawyer who's writing up a contract to say what they will and won't do with each other when they get home. Are we there yet?
Tony Blair was on about bringing in sex contracts iirc.
 
I used to go out with a girl who used to fantasise about being raped
The longer we were together the rougher and kinkier she wanted things to get
It actually got so intense I was scared shitless so I ended up walking away - I'm not sure if there had been something in her past life but she was fascinated by violence

I suspect I had something of a lucky escape
 
I used to go out with a girl who used to fantasise about being raped
The longer we were together the rougher and kinkier she wanted things to get
It actually got so intense I was scared shitless so I ended up walking away - I'm not sure if there had been something in her past life but she was fascinated by violence

I suspect I had something of a lucky escape
I was waiting for the punch line there

Edit: maybe punch line wasn't the best phrase to use!!
:oops:
 
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