The Bullied Syrian Kid - Other Side of the Story

[Harry Angstrom]

The whole situation is bizarre. All of this over what in fairness was a minor school ground incident. But I suppose given how it's all blown up the other lad deserves to have his side heard.

It's like the shooting of Archduke Ferdinand starting WWI. Small incident and two sides kick off big style.

No one really gives a fuck about the kids. It's political point scoring on the internet.

 

[ned_werby]

The whole situation is bizarre. All of this over what in fairness was a minor school ground incident. But I suppose given how it's all blown up the other lad deserves to have his side heard.

Why? What was he doing when he pushed the kid to the ground and poured a bottle of water over his face, defending himself?

 

[JAZZMANB]

It's still out there. One person who contacted him made up a story, the others are still maintaining their stories are true.


What if Bailey was found to be telling the truth?


I don't know why the media didn't bother interviewing bailey when all this took place...... oh wait actually I do

Poor bloke doesn't know what to spout out to the nation ,glad he finds it funny.Even in the first vid he was more concerned about his hair

 

[peil]

Why? What was he doing when he pushed the kid to the ground and poured a bottle of water over his face, defending himself?

"You're getting stabbed"
"Here's some water in the face that'll make you think again"
......
profit

 

[Ben Gardner]

Personally I think it's been blown out of proportion and I'm far from a Tommy Robinson supporter, but there is 2 sides to a story. No one can say on here if that is true or not, but kids have been scrapping at schools for as long as time. If he's been threatened and reacted, it's a fight not bullying. World we live in, it's automatically a racial thing though. What if it isn't and now this kids life is ruined and mother and sister getting thousands of threats of rape? That's disgusting.

At the recent "Justice for wimmin n kids n that" march through Sunderland, I had things shouted at me like "I hope YOUR kids get raped!".

Yes, that's also disgusting but I expected it because I was standing up to the right-wing numpties that thought they were marching in support of anything but racism, bigotry and division.

I put myself in that position voluntarily, just like "Bailey" and mother have chosen to be racists.

So yeah, like the OP says ... there's two sides to every story.

 

[Pete]

You seem like a canny lad Aituk, please do not go down the road of thinking shits like Robinson have any answers man. They are vile opportunists man, getting normally decent people roped into there evil agendas by latching on to shit like this and exploiting peoples fears and prejudices

 

[Aituk7]

I'm saying if a child had been threatened with being stabbed, and genuinely believed another child had a knife...

The correct thing to do is report it, most likely to a teacher if it was on school grounds, who would then move it upwards to the police.
Taking the law into their own hands in the manner that he did was incorrect.

It's not rocket science.

Well I don't know what school you want to, but if someone threatened to stab someone at my school it always ended in a fight which would have been way worse than what was on camera.

I've explained to you already.

"Tommy" has no relevance, he is not a journalist, there's no gravitas to his opinion. At all.

This has nothing to do with what we were talking about,

The whole situation is bizarre. All of this over what in fairness was a minor school ground incident. But I suppose given how it's all blown up the other lad deserves to have his side heard.

100% this.

The whole thing is utterly ridiculous but it's at that level now.

 

[HABA87]

Well I don't know what school you want to, but if someone threatened to stab someone at my school it always ended in a fight which would have been way worse than what was on camera.

I went to a school where there was never a mention of knives.
There were some brutal fisticuffs mind.

If you're happy for kids to run around schools saying they've got knives and threatening to stab people without any authoritative intervention, then fair play.
It doesn't sit well with me though.

 

[Aituk7]

It's like the shooting of Archduke Ferdinand starting WWI. Small incident and two sides kick off big style.

No one really gives a fuck about the kids. It's political point scoring on the internet.

Unfortunately one kid is now living in hiding because of it all.

 

[Ben Gardner]

Unfortunately one kid is now living in hiding because of it all.

... and his racist mother.

'P**i terrorist’! Mum of school bully who waterboarded Syrian refugee is convicted racist

 

[Aituk7]

You seem like a canny lad Aituk, please do not go down the road of thinking shits like Robinson have any answers man. They are vile opportunists man, getting normally decent people roped into there evil agendas by latching on to shit like this and exploiting peoples fears and prejudices

I thank you for saying I am canny and being concerned for my well being.

I simply state my opinion on the matter.

I'm only saying I find it interesting that this lad could be telling a different side to the story.

It's really got very little to do with TR imo, he just happens to be the only person who's bothered to interview the kid.

And I haven't taken a "side" either. I did say it could all be bullshit in the op.

I went to a school where there was never a mention of knives.
There were some brutal fisticuffs mind.

If you're happy for kids to run around schools saying they've got knives and threatening to stab people without any authoritative intervention, then fair play.
It doesn't sit well with me though.

It doesn't sit well with me either, but regardless if it is a child or an adult I can understand if someone says they will attack someone said person responding with an attack.

Considering what took place, it was minor as fuck.

All I'm saying is that if this all turns out to be true, I have sympathy for Bailey. And considering the level to which this has gone the truth really should be investigated.

... and his racist mother.

'P**i terrorist’! Mum of school bully who waterboarded Syrian refugee is convicted racist

That's strange. Not saying it isn't true by any means but in the interview Bailey said his sisters were mixed race.

 

[HABA87]

It doesn't sit well with me either, but regardless if it is a child or an adult I can understand if someone says they will attack someone said person responding with an attack.

Considering what took place, it was minor as fuck.

All I'm saying is that if this all turns out to be true, I have sympathy for Bailey. And considering the level to which this has gone the truth really should be investigated.

If I genuinely thought the person was armed with a knife with intent to stab me, and there was no current confrontation going on - just like the video - I'd walk away and report it ASAP.

What's the point in steaming in unnecessarily if you genuinely believe you're going to be stabbed and possibly killed?

In short, I think it's highly unlikely the lad thought he was going to be stabbed.
There you go.

 

[Aituk7]

If I genuinely thought the person was armed with a knife with intent to stab me, and there was no current confrontation going on - just like the video - I'd walk away and report it ASAP.

What's the point in steaming in unnecessarily if you genuinely believe you're going to be stabbed and possibly killed?

In short, I think it's highly unlikely the lad thought he was going to be stabbed.
There you go.

I do too, without a doubt, but it's school. When kids say stuff like that to each other, this sort of stuff happens.

I mean it wasn't like he put the lad in hospital. He grabbed him to the floor, said "what are you gonna say now" and threw water over him.

 

[Ben Gardner]

That's strange. Not saying it isn't true by any means but in the interview Bailey said his sisters were mixed race.

... which makes the mother even more of a f***ing plum.

 

[jacko100]

have zero time for bullies but you have to be a special kind of scum to pick on and throw to the ground someone who already has a broken arm

 

[Aituk7]

... which makes the mother even more of a f***ing plum.

Yeah, I still don't think her and her family should be in hiding like.

Do you think Jamal will take TR to court?

have zero time for bullies but you have to be a special kind of scum to pick on and throw to the ground someone who already has a broken arm

If Bailey is to be believed the lad with the broken arm is himself a bully and threatened to stab him first.

 

[HABA87]

I do too, without a doubt, but it's school. When kids say stuff like that to each other, this sort of stuff happens.

I mean it wasn't like he put the lad in hospital. He grabbed him to the floor, said "what are you gonna say now" and threw water over him.

Whether he ended up in hospital or not is irrelevant. On the original thread one of my first posts was that I'd seen far worse many times, but that's irrelevant too.

The only evidential facts that we have seen are that immigrant refugee Jamal was ragged around by a Britain First supporting, Tommy Robinson fanboy, who is the son of a convicted racist.

 

[jacko100]

If Bailey is to be believed the lad with the broken arm is himself a bully and threatened to stab him first.

I don't believe that for a second. there's also zero evidence to support it. If there was Jamal would've been interviewed by the police about it.
You just need to look at his demeanour in the original video, he's meek and just wants to get the hell out of there. He doesnt fight back, he doesnt even say anything as he know that will just make it worse. That's the behaviour of someone who is constantly bullied not of a bully.

 

[Ben Gardner]

Yeah, I still don't think her and her family should be in hiding like.

Do you think Jamal will take TR to court?

They chose to go to into hiding - their decision.
"Bailey" and his ma chose to be racists - their decision.
You makes your bed, you gotta lie in it!

As for Jamal taking "TR" to court, I really don't care. "TR" will get his comeuppance one way or another.

Like I've alluded previously, you play with fire ... you're gonna get burnt.

I'll agree it's a shame that "Bailey"s sisters are caught up in this. So far, it looks like they don't deserve the negative attention. I'm sure they'll grow up to realise the ramifications of bigotry.

 

[Aituk7]

Whether he ended up in hospital or not is irrelevant. On the original thread one of my first posts was that I'd seen far worse many times, but that's irrelevant too.

The only evidential facts that we have seen are that immigrant refugee Jamal was ragged around by a Britain First supporting, Tommy Robinson fanboy, who is the son of a convicted racist.

And if that is the only element to the story then I look forward to seeing Jamals solicitor enact his threat of taking TR to court.

I don't believe that for a second. there's also zero evidence to support it. If there was Jamal would've been interviewed by the police about it.
You just need to look at his demeanour in the original video, he's meek and just wants to get the hell out of there. He doesnt fight back, he doesnt even say anything as he know that will just make it worse. That's the behaviour of someone who is constantly bullied not of a bully.

Hence I am sure he will be taking TR to court as per his solicitors threats.