Gammon-Watch: Jamesons , Sunderland - Thu 6th Dec

What May brought back is a betrayal of this country never mind brexit voters. I cannot believe how f***ing stupid that bitch has been... absolutely pathetic.


The shit she has offered up as "brexit" is for me the equivalent of remain winning and her joining us to the Euro.
No you are wrong, the ballot paper said 'Leave the EU' which her deal delivers on.

If you don't like the details, you should have asked for a final say on them but as I recall you opposed Gina Dover wanted Parliament to have a say and you opposed a 2nd referendum giving the people a say.

You asked specifically that Theresa May got to decide the details, don't whine now she's done that.
 


No you are wrong, the ballot paper said 'Leave the EU' which her deal delivers on.

If you don't like the details, you should have asked for a final say on them but as I recall you opposed Gina Dover wanted Parliament to have a say and you opposed a 2nd referendum giving the people a say.

You asked specifically that Theresa May got to decide the details, don't whine now she's done that.
Indeed. The deal gives the 52% exactly what they put their tick against.
 
No you are wrong, the ballot paper said 'Leave the EU' which her deal delivers on.

If you don't like the details, you should have asked for a final say on them but as I recall you opposed Gina Dover wanted Parliament to have a say and you opposed a 2nd referendum giving the people a say.

You asked specifically that Theresa May got to decide the details, don't whine now she's done that.
This is not true.
 
If you don't want a second referendum, then by default you are asking Theresa May to agree the deal on your behalf.
Not at all, I thought we had David Davis negotiating. She removed him and then got in Raab, when he got a different deal she removed him too.

The tories need to remove her and hand it to the ERG.
 
Not at all, I thought we had David Davis negotiating. She removed him and then got in Raab, when he got a different deal she removed him too.

The tories need to remove her and hand it to the ERG.
What was the deal Raab got? And would you have been happy with that?

BTW, Davis and Raab both resigned, May didn't "remove" them.
 
No you are wrong, the ballot paper said 'Leave the EU' which her deal delivers on.

If you don't like the details, you should have asked for a final say on them but as I recall you opposed Gina Dover wanted Parliament to have a say and you opposed a 2nd referendum giving the people a say.

You asked specifically that Theresa May got to decide the details, don't whine now she's done that.

When do we leave the EU then? Can you confirm it's in the next 4-5 months?
 
What was the deal Raab got? And would you have been happy with that?

BTW, Davis and Raab both resigned, May didn't "remove" them.
I meant deal raab wanted. And in public office you know how it goes, I like you so I'll offer you the chance to resign or I will remove you.
 
I meant deal raab wanted. And in public office you know how it goes, I like you so I'll offer you the chance to resign or I will remove you.
What was the deal Raab wanted?

And was he removed/resigned because May wouldn't agree to that deal or because the EU wouldn't agree to it?
 
What was the deal Raab wanted?

And was he removed/resigned because May wouldn't agree to that deal or because the EU wouldn't agree to it?

I don't know but I never said I wanted him to do the negotiations, I was happy with Davis.

Because May wouldn't agree to the deal. It's her fault for this. The EU were just looking after themselves and they have every right to do so. I wouldn't expect any less of them. My issue is with May, this is a really shitty deal for us considering what we are going to go through.

I perfectly understand that we will hit a bumpy road economically, you always do when things change but the hope was long term we would benefit. This is just a mess.
 
I don't know but I never said I wanted him to do the negotiations, I was happy with Davis.

Because May wouldn't agree to the deal. It's her fault for this. The EU were just looking after themselves and they have every right to do so. I wouldn't expect any less of them. My issue is with May, this is a really shitty deal for us considering what we are going to go through.

I perfectly understand that we will hit a bumpy road economically, you always do when things change but the hope was long term we would benefit. This is just a mess.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. It seems as if you think Raab had some great idea that he proposed to the EU and May and both the EU and May knocked it back and you think May should have backed Raab's plan and tried to get the EU to agree?

Also, as well as all that you have no idea what Raab's plan was anyway?

Is my assumption of your point correct?
 
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. It seems as if you think Raab had some great idea that he proposed to the EU and May and both the EU and May knocked it back and you think May should have backed Raab's plan and tried to get the EU to agree?

Also, as well as all that you have no idea what Raab's plan was anyway?

Is my assumption of your point correct?
No, I have no idea what you are talking about now :lol:

I was just relaying events, to clarify, I hoped for a cross party group of brexiteers, but I would've settled for David Davis' vision of brexit.

It’s amazing how many people think the pub chain has some sort of meteorological connection :lol:
Is it true he named it after a teacher of his that said he'd never be a success or something?
 
The tramp showed himself good n proper.

He was burbling on about having "differences of opinion" was awesome for democracy and the poet gadgee said, "well that's not what you said in the dressing room. You said a coalition is the only way forward"

The fat knacker then retracted exactly what he'd said and admitted he was in the wrong.

Tim Martin: Stupid egotistical racist unkempt bigoted two-faced charlatan.
but you drink in his pubs.
 
No, I have no idea what you are talking about now :lol:

I was just relaying events, to clarify, I hoped for a cross party group of brexiteers, but I would've settled for David Davis' vision of brexit.


Is it true he named it after a teacher of his that said he'd never be a success or something?

Yup, used to run pubs for Tim. Thoroughly decent guy and an excellent company to work for.
 
I suppose the crunch question would be, can a black man be a Gammon? I'm genuinely wondering.

As it's entirety possible for a black man to be an advocare for white supremacy, the answer to your question is yes.

To be more specific, can a black man exhibit a jowly, wobbly, fat ham remenicisent head? Yes. So... Yes.

I voted leave. Love seeing the tears flowing down remainer's faces as i walk down the street.

That's because you stink, mate. Of shit.
 
No, I have no idea what you are talking about now :lol:

I was just relaying events, to clarify, I hoped for a cross party group of brexiteers, but I would've settled for David Davis' vision of brexit.
It's you who is confusing things. You said:

She removed him and then got in Raab, when he got a different deal she removed him too

So it read as if you were saying Raab had actually agreed a deal with the EU. Then you said:

I meant deal raab wanted
So I asked you what was the deal Raab wanted then. You replied:

I don't know but I never said I wanted him to do the negotiations, I was happy with Davis.
Then you said:
Because May wouldn't agree to the deal. It's her fault for this
So basically Raab didn't have a deal, but he wanted one, but May wouldn't agree to the deal he may or may not have proposed/agreed.

You're all over the place on this. There was no other deal, and Raab didn't even know what other deal he wanted. If he had done, there is absolutely no doubt he would have came out and said "this is the deal I proposed, but Theresa May blocked it"
 
Yup, used to run pubs for Tim. Thoroughly decent guy and an excellent company to work for.
My parents used to run pubs and they were in the vicinity of wetherspoons at times, they and others had nothing but praise for them. I think some people's negativity towards the man or spoons the company is based around the idea of starbucks as an example, where a company turns up with mass produced products, sells them dirt cheap to eliminate the competition and then takes over the area.

I've read plenty of Tim's articles about the pub trade and he's always been honest, the local pubs need wetherspoons sometimes, but equally spoons needs them. They all have to work together to make a success of public houses in the area

It's you who is confusing things. You said:



So it read as if you were saying Raab had actually agreed a deal with the EU. Then you said:


So I asked you what was the deal Raab wanted then. You replied:


Then you said:

So basically Raab didn't have a deal, but he wanted one, but May wouldn't agree to the deal he may or may not have proposed/agreed.

You're all over the place on this. There was no other deal, and Raab didn't even know what other deal he wanted. If he had done, there is absolutely no doubt he would have came out and said "this is the deal I proposed, but Theresa May blocked it"
I think you've confused my posts, I no doubt will have contributed so I tried to clarify once and for all what I meant in the last post.

I was just relaying events with Raab, my point was that she got rid of him because she obviously has her mind set on what she wants and couldn't give a shit if people disagree with her.
 

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