Sajid Javid - Asian Paedophile Gangs

It's divisive from the tories which is no surprise, I can see Abbotts point here despite her being generally loathsome

I think that the acts themselves are divisive... someone calling them out as what they are can only be a positive.

Everyone now knows there were failings in bringing these people to court based on race but i don't see why you can't just say sick Paedophiles and leave the Asian bit out.They aren't exclusive just operate a bit better

It does seem to be a cultural thing.

There's obviously a problem with these types of gangs up and down the country, demonstrated as more and more come to light.
Nowt wrang with him calling them out.
Saying that they should be hammering the Catholic Church way more than they are as that is wick with sick bastards too.
The sooner the coppers and authorities get to grips with gangs of all persuasions regardless of colour or creed the better for all

I'm sorry but on what basis is the Catholic church full of sick bastards?
 
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Of course. They would be meat for rapists as long as they are attracted to young men with a good line in patter and carrying a line of coke.

They go after kids for the same reason they do in Pakistan. They are the MOST vulnerable in society...more inclined to be impressed with a bottle of 20:20...less inclined/able to fight back against rape...more easily bullied...more likely to believe that these rapists actually love them...easier deniability. The weakest are the easiest prey to target.

In Pakistan of course you can substitute a bag of sweeties foe the booze/weed/coke - much cheaper for your cost conscious rapist.
I agree. The fact is, is that 'some' men are just dirty bastards and will exploit the young and vulnerable if conditions allow them.
Rape has happened for many thousands of years, in all societies, and sadly will continue to happen. It can only be minimised by creating conditions that target and better the conditions of the vulnerable, victims and any potential victim.
 
I think that the acts themselves are divisive... someone calling them out as what they are can only be a positive.



It does seem to be a cultural thing.



I'm sorry but on what basis is the Catholic church full of sick bastards?
Erm the amount of paedo priests for a kick off, that's before we even get to the massive coverups by the church that have went on for years over literally 1000s of crimes that have been committed both here and worldwide
 
I think that the acts themselves are divisive... someone calling them out as what they are can only be a positive.



It does seem to be a cultural thing.



I'm sorry but on what basis is the Catholic church full of sick bastards?

French Bishops launch 'independent' commission on sex abuse in Catholic Church - CNN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...e8-8f5f-a55347f48762_story.html?noredirect=on

Both from the last 24 hours too.

As you say it does seem to be a cultural thing.
 
I agree. The fact is, is that 'some' men are just dirty bastards and will exploit the young and vulnerable if conditions allow them.
Rape has happened for many thousands of years, in all societies, and sadly will continue to happen. It can only be minimised by creating conditions that target and better the conditions of the vulnerable, victims and any potential victim.
Yes but when those men have religious leaders telling them that what they are doing is not only ok, but correct, then it goes beyond the realms of just being "human nature"
 
Mr Nazir Afzal on the BBC's PM programme 19/10/2018 (quoted comment spoken at approx. 34 minutes 10 seconds): PM - 19/10/2018 - BBC Sounds

Former North West Chief Prosecutor alleges that Home Office ordered police to ignore grooming gang claims in 2008

Speaking on the BBC's PM programme, Mr Afzal the former North West Prosecutor who reversed a Crown Prosecution Service decision and successfully prosecuted the notorious Rochdale rape gang, said:

“You may not know this, but back in 2008 the Home office sent a circular to all police forces in the country saying 'as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.'”
I know folk won't like the source, but horrible if true. Sorry if SEB.
 
I agree.

FWIW I don't think they were all peadophiles, I think they wanted sex and abusing kids from troubled backgrounds was the easiest way for them to get it.



I think it goes a bit further than that, the communities apparently knew what was going on and said/did nothing and it has been well reported in the press that one of the main drivers of this was the extremely low regard for white women within these communities.
This ,

Calling it extremely low regard is being polite ,white women in general are shit on the bottom of these peoples shoes and deserve raping .
 
Exactly. You're a paedophile first, and whatever comes after that is secondary.
There’s no getting away from the fact that most of the big groups of nonces prosecuted recently have been of Pakistan origin and that does need to be factored into any future investigations in the same way any trait is used to catch people upto no good.
I just hope that the authorities carry on looking into all abuse though and not just these groups of sick people. They do however seem to catch big numbers when they do.
 
Mr Nazir Afzal on the BBC's PM programme 19/10/2018 (quoted comment spoken at approx. 34 minutes 10 seconds): PM - 19/10/2018 - BBC Sounds

Former North West Chief Prosecutor alleges that Home Office ordered police to ignore grooming gang claims in 2008


I know folk won't like the source, but horrible if true. Sorry if SEB.
Christ if that's true there could be a massive scandal with a lot of recriminations being thrown about.
Also with the accusation coming a guy that prosecuted the Rochdale mob it's got to be taken seriously
 
Surely those religious leaders could be prosecuted for incitement to cause a crime then? In fact could a religion that encourages this sort of behaviour be outlawed??
The authorities will well aware of who they are and what they get up to but there seems to be an unwillingness to upset the Muslim community until they perpetrators have overstepped the mark by a considerable amount.
As for banning a religion, Its against everything we stand for in a democracy. It would only be banned in public places anyway. It would still be preached behind closed doors, probably even more so.
 
Sajid Javid: People offended by 'Asian' paedophile comment 'oversensitive'

Sajid Javid: People offended by 'Asian' paedophile comment 'oversensitive'

The home secretary says he was simply stating a "sad truth" that will "fuel" the far-right unless it is confronted.

Sajid Javid has defended branding a grooming gang "sick Asian paedophiles", saying those who criticised him for it were being "oversensitive".

His Labour shadow, Diane Abbott, was among those to criticise the post, saying that "attempts by… the government to attribute these crimes to one ethnic group does nothing to support these vulnerable women".

Speaking from Seattle, Washington, Mr Javid explained why he had commissioned research since the trial to "see if there are any cultural issues".

"I don't regret it at all," he told Sky News.

He added that "part of the problem" was that police and social workers "didn't take this issue seriously enough because they didn't want to be accused of racism and that's wrong".




Well said, seriously, well f***ing said. Not only addressing the issue (he didn't mention the religious element, but I'll let that slide) because for the home secretary to call it what it is, explain that not addressing the issue properly fuels the far right, which it most certainly does at a detriment to our country and that he has commissioned a report to be made into this is imo only right.

But for Dianne Abbott to bring ethnicity into it, when "asisns" aren't a f***ing ethnicity for one the clown. The thing is she might have actually had a point had she said it's not a majority Asian problem, it's a majority muslim pakistani/bangledeshi problem... but I'm so glad in this current culture of people constantly apologising he has doubled down and stuck to his guns.
It's not only endemic in the Pakistani community. They just seem to be not very good at covering it up, unlike other groups in society. They're also a convenient smoke screen.

Javid is a potential first ever brown prime minister imho.
He's utterly thick as fuck. So, aye, you're probably right. This latest rape stuff is probably part of his pitch.
 
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