Marijuana

I think looking at how the US and Canada get on is a better idea :lol:

As someone who is pro-legalisation, I feel that there would still need to be a lot of planning and law around it to protect people.

If legalised, in my opinion, a few things I reckon would be a decent idea:

- Sold to adults only and big fines and licenses revoked if selling to anybody under that age.

- Purchasable only with valid photo ID.

- Restricted daily purchase limit, at least from each dispensary/seller.

- All products bought from growers, must come with testing on each batch for mold and other contaminants.

- All products must come from licensed growers with traceable batch numbers.

- Different tiers of licensing depending upon the scale of cultivation, with the big boys having to adhere to strict cultivation techniques in order to produce a clean product.



I'd give it closer to an hour, some can take a good while to digest as I've found :lol:
From what I can tell at least the first half of the list is happening in Canada. They're also doing ads on drug driving and where to get more info online, plus q&a s on the metro.

My friend is receiving delivery at about 2 and his lass is coming over at 8. So smash the lot and hope it wears off in time?

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While I'm pro-legalisation, this is a bit of a fantasy. They would simply undercut the licensed distributors, or move on to more damaging drugs/crimes.
The dealers are still in demand at the moment here. You get more for your money now though.
Dealers would die off a lot quicker if they allowed people to actually grow their own weed.
 
Here's my view...

I don't smoke it other than on very rare occasions.... But I don't mind it with 'regular' stoners who seem to have a respect for others around them and keep it to themselves. My best mate is one of these and he either comes down mine to smoke it in back garden or waits til the missus and bairn is asleep and has some in his back yard. He's never been in bother with the police, apart from when he took some to Amsterdam, and got caught on the ferry ON THE WAY TO AMSTERDAM. (He's an idiot at times). My current lady smokes it maybe twice a week, but again, does it in privacy, away from anyone, and has never been in bother.

My ex lady, who lives in Malta, smokes it daily. Never been in bother because the police there seem to turn a blind eye to it.

The problem is the wankers who seem to think it's something to brag about (much like the wankers who turn up to the airshow with a slab of Carling on their shoulder) - they let all other users down.

Stoners in general never seem to cause bother. Drunk people cause a lot.
 
I’ve kicked about with people who smoke daily. They are a f***ing liability mate. Note too mention actually getting them into work. @gillythedilf is a builder he should know what the degenerate fuckers are like. Like you say in moderation would be manageable but have you seen these lads in the dam ‘Cos its legal’
They should make drink and fags illegal and it would sort the nhs out in about a month.


They cherry pick the data mate. Just google the real truth about Portugal’s drugs.
Generally they are the total wasters and petty thieves .

Like I say, plenty of wasters, job or not, will smoke cannabis. I think it's more a case of those sorts gravitating to cannabis than it being the result of.

Many seems to think it's just lazy stoners and chavs consuming cannabis, but it's really not the case. Those with more to lose are just more secretive. My friend knows a police officer who still occasionally ffs :lol:.

It's not for everyone mind, just like alcohol and cigarettes.
I’ve never been in anyone’s kip who smokes the cowie that isn’t black mind.

It must do something to your brain that makes you relax and not give two fucks about anything .

Here's my view...

I don't smoke it other than on very rare occasions.... But I don't mind it with 'regular' stoners who seem to have a respect for others around them and keep it to themselves. My best mate is one of these and he either comes down mine to smoke it in back garden or waits til the missus and bairn is asleep and has some in his back yard. He's never been in bother with the police, apart from when he took some to Amsterdam, and got caught on the ferry ON THE WAY TO AMSTERDAM. (He's an idiot at times). My current lady smokes it maybe twice a week, but again, does it in privacy, away from anyone, and has never been in bother.

My ex lady, who lives in Malta, smokes it daily. Never been in bother because the police there seem to turn a blind eye to it.

The problem is the wankers who seem to think it's something to brag about (much like the wankers who turn up to the airshow with a slab of Carling on their shoulder) - they let all other users down.

Stoners in general never seem to cause bother. Drunk people cause a lot.
I agree people who smoke the blar are never violent .
 
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It would massively undermine their operations, the price point that was set would (tax permitting) be subject to competition and there would be cheaper and more expensive. Plus whats to stop everyone growing it themselves, if the criminality were taken away there would be a hugely reduced criminal/gang aspect to the whole thing.
You can make your own booze but nobody does
 
That’s a world of potential human rights abuse claims right there. I’m no lawyer, but surely firms can’t sack people for doing something in their own time that’s legal? And as it’s detectable for so long after you’re no longer intoxicated, the piss test is no good at determining this. It’s like being sacked for being pissed a week ago. I would think they’d need to introduce blood tests, or they’re on very shaky ground.


Within 10 years. Nailed on.
They can sack them for being drunk on thw job so they will for being stoned..
 
That’s a world of potential human rights abuse claims right there. I’m no lawyer, but surely firms can’t sack people for doing something in their own time that’s legal? And as it’s detectable for so long after you’re no longer intoxicated, the piss test is no good at determining this. It’s like being sacked for being pissed a week ago. I would think they’d need to introduce blood tests, or they’re on very shaky ground.


Within 10 years. Nailed on.


If you use a saliva (oral fluid) test then this only detects the active ingredient delta 9THC. Depending upon the cut off value of the device used this gives a window of detection of 8-12 hours. It’s the acid metabolite that is soluble in human fat which is why it can be detected in urine days afterwards, but the saliva tests are not cross reactive to that so no chance of a “false positive” from that source.
 
They can sack them for being drunk on thw job so they will for being stoned..

I think the point was more that being able to detect use of THC through a drugs test does not mean they were under the influence at the time of test. It would be like disciplining somebody over a few cans in their own time after work.
 
So you think legalising weed will not be a strain on the nhs? Take away the mental health issues as there is arguments for and against, in my opinion the drug driving rate would rise a lot leading to more accidents. If what you say about people only buying taxed weed it would lead to higher crime in the weed smoking world as the need for more money would be greater.
I think that people who want to legalise weed think it will lead to middle aged blokes sitting in a cafe with a coffee and a joint. Get yourself down the rough ends of pallion and Hendon and see what their drug of choice is.
Like you say in moderation it’s ok. But by legalising it you open the door to the abusers.
Can you elaborate on this bearing in mind its not addictive

If what you say about people only buying taxed weed it would lead to higher crime in the weed smoking world as the need for more money would be greater.
 
They can sack them for being drunk on thw job so they will for being stoned..
Being drunk on the job is not the same as being sacked for having a pint a fortnight earlier.

If you use a saliva (oral fluid) test then this only detects the active ingredient delta 9THC. Depending upon the cut off value of the device used this gives a window of detection of 8-12 hours. It’s the acid metabolite that is soluble in human fat which is why it can be detected in urine days afterwards, but the saliva tests are not cross reactive to that so no chance of a “false positive” from that source.
There you go then. Saliva test following a positive urine test is the way forward.
 
Generally they are the total wasters and petty thieves .


I’ve never been in anyone’s kip who smokes the cowie that isn’t black mind.

It must do something to your brain that makes you relax and not give two fucks about anything .


I agree people who smoke the blar are never violent .
The top bit is shite mind. Unless youre talking about all day every day stoners. .Even then I've met a load of obsessive tidy freaks.
 
Can you elaborate on this bearing in mind its not addictive

If what you say about people only buying taxed weed it would lead to higher crime in the weed smoking world as the need for more money would be greater.
Smoking weed is addictive mate.
 
No more addictive than anything else humans enjoy though. You can stop taking it dead and suffer no withdrawal symptoms. So in that sense it’s the same as chocolate or cake.

Some people can stop without experiencing withdrawal symptoms. Some hard users do suffer withdrawal symptoms though, mainly psychological, but they can be physical as well.

Wrong. its not an addictive substance.

No I'm sorry, but you are wrong. It absolutely is an addictive substance.

Balls.

When I used to smoke all day every day and was forced to stop for whatever reason it was horrible.

Agreed. It's not something that passes after a few hours either. It's like one or two weeks before the dysphoria comes to an end.
 
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