Racist away fans (again)

[Mrjardine]

It’s in virtually every post you’ve made man! You say you have no problem with racist abuse so not being ‘offended’ by it means you accept it. It’s not something you can be neutral on ffs!


Probably a good idea

I said it doesn’t bother or offend me which it doesn’t. Just as Anthony Joshua claiming the black race is supreme didnt seem to bother anyone else.

It’s not a comment about a banana . You know that. Now please fuck off.

The ironic thing is there’s been more abuse from people like you on this thread than any racist that was at yesterday’s game.
The lack of self awareness is staggering really.

 

[HebburnMackem]

I said it doesn’t bother or offend me which it doesn’t. Just as Anthony Joshua claiming the black race is supreme didnt seem to bother anyone else.

Oh, it didn't offend you.. That's ok then.

 

[Zodiac]

Just as well you didnt watch football in the 1970's.

Why not just condone the racist comment? Unless of course you agree with it?

 

[Mrjardine]

Oh, it didn't offend you.. That's ok then.

Did Anthony Joshua claiming the black race to be supreme offend you?

Did Bernard Hopkins bellowing in Joe Calzaghes face that ‘he’ll never lose to no white boy’ offend you?

Did mike Tyson grabbing his crotch calling a reporter a ‘white honk’ and that he’d make him his ‘bitch’ offend you?

 

[HebburnMackem]

Did Anthony Joshua claiming the black race to be supreme offend you?

Did Bernard Hopkins bellowing in Joe Calzaghes face that ‘he’ll never lose to no white boy’ offend you?

Did mike Tyson grabbing his crotch calling a reporter a ‘white honk’ and that he’d make him his ‘bitch’ offend you?

This thread is not about those incidents, your deflection tactics are not working. By being fine with the banana comment you have outed yourself as a racist. Plain and simple.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

Did Anthony Joshua claiming the black race to be supreme offend you?

Did Bernard Hopkins bellowing in Joe Calzaghes face that ‘he’ll never lose to no white boy’ offend you?

Did mike Tyson grabbing his crotch calling a reporter a ‘white honk’ and that he’d make him his ‘bitch’ offend you?

They offend me (although the authenticity of the Joshua comment is seriously debatable); the comment about Maja offends me just as much. Racism is racism, irrespective of the racial origin of the perpetrator and victim. To deny that would be a racist act in itself. And if you think that means I'm calling you a racist, tough shit.

 

[Mrjardine]

This thread is not about those incidents, your deflection tactics are not working. By being fine with the banana comment you have outed yourself as a racist. Plain and simple.

Completely spineless

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

31 pages and nobody knows who got arrested?

 

[Mrjardine]

They offend me (although the authenticity of the Joshua comment is seriously debatable); the comment about Maja offends me just as much. Racism is racism, irrespective of the racial origin of the perpetrator and victim. To deny that would be a racist act in itself. And if you think that means I'm calling you a racist, tough shit.

There is no debate he was talking to him for days man and the fact Eddie Hearn jumped in feet first with his ‘fake account’ shite just proves it.
Neither comments from either the black or white perspective bother me.
I really couldn’t care what you’re calling me to be honest. The opinion of a faceless no mark on a forum isn’t high on my priority list.
At least you had the balls to answer honestly though.

 

[Rainhill]

Did Anthony Joshua claiming the black race to be supreme offend you?

Did Bernard Hopkins bellowing in Joe Calzaghes face that ‘he’ll never lose to no white boy’ offend you?

Did mike Tyson grabbing his crotch calling a reporter a ‘white honk’ and that he’d make him his ‘bitch’ offend you?

And you think Sunderland fans making comments about bananas to black footballers is perfectly acceptable.

Which brings us right back to the start.

 

[HebburnMackem]

Completely spineless

Spineless is a person who's a racist, like yourself.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

There is no debate he was talking to him for days man and the fact Eddie Hearn jumped in feet first with his ‘fake account’ shite just proves it.
Neither comments from either the black or white perspective bother me.
I really couldn’t care what you’re calling me to be honest. The opinion of a faceless no mark on a forum isn’t high on my priority list.
At least you had the balls to answer honestly though.

Oooh, I'm so hurt. Excuse me, I need to lie down for a very long laugh

 

[Mrjardine]

And you think Sunderland fans making comments about bananas to black footballers is perfectly acceptable.

Which brings us right back to the start.

I said it doesn’t offend me.

You clearly aren’t offended by the remarks from black people I’ve mentioned.

What’s the difference?

Spineless is a person who's a racist, like yourself.

I’d say it was a person who will spend all day on a forum making accusations then not having the courage of his own convictions to answer a straightforward question.

You fit the lefty soft cock stereotype quite nicely.

 

[HebburnMackem]

I said it doesn’t offend me.

You clearly aren’t offended by the remarks from black people I’ve mentioned.

What’s the difference?


I’d say it was a person who will spend all day on a forum making accusations then not having the courage of his own convictions to answer a straightforward question.

You fit the lefty soft cock stereotype quite nicely.

I'm just not falling for your deflection tactics. Racists that think it's fine to make the comments in the OP have have no moral fibre and are racist cowards. People like me who stand up against shit like that are 100x the man you are.

 

[KittenMittens]

I have tried not to get entrenched in this dialogue as I tend to comment on everything pertaining to race. The anti-racists are in my book correct as they would be and the racists as always show their true colours . Same individuals as always on both camps. Just for the record I stand firmly with the anti-racists. What really pisses me off is those who castigate those who flag up inappropriate bigoted behaviour ! Racism in any form is wrong and never funny or amusing. The racist comment at the match which launched this thread should really have been addressed at the match.

Just a thought on the Barbary pirates who dabbled in slavery around the med were a mixed bag of moors, Arabs and Mediterranean Europeans. In fact an infamous Barbary pirate was an Englishman and Muslim convert I believe was called John Bird, of whom the Jack Sparrow character was based.
There is no comparison with the enslavement of African people and the transatlantic slave trade. Whereby some 15 million people over a 400 year period were taken against their will across the water in the most inhumane conditions we could never ever imagine. Treated as commodities and stripped of their identities and culture , brutalised and abused and contributing to the rise of capitalism as we know it today . Given this as a backdrop , throwing the man a banana is not terribly funny....

Very good post. @Mrjardine seems to think that the two are comparable, when it is very clear that while neither is acceptable, right or something to be ignored, one of those things is only 40 years removed from being an influence over the rule of law in many countries. We are 54 years removed from black and white being forced to use separate toilets in America (and the practices and subtle replacements for them went on for a long time afterwards). We are 40 years removed from people being called 'Nig Nog' on British TV. The generation who watched 'Love thy neighbour' as young men and women have passed on subtle prejudices that people forget exist.

Put simply, law did not immediately overcome racism. We didn't become a post-racial society at that point. I remember in the early 00's I worked in a shop in Sunderland where black applicants' cvs were thrown straight in the bin - filed under 'B', but in this case, the 'B' referred to black. When my mate (who happens to be black) came in to see me one day and just chat, I was called all kinds of shit, 'n*gger lover' etc. It was my first taste of racism being genuinely nasty and affecting people.

Don't be naive. It still exists, and everyone who demands the right to offend is slowly dredging up the right of employers to discriminate in subtle ways, for landlords to avoid having black tenants in 'white' areas, for bars and institutions to enact unsaid policies about admittance etc. Those things are not gone yet, they're bubbling under the surface and sometimes rear their head. People act shocked, which is a start, but it will be many years before calling people a monkey or talk of bananas in relation to race won't evoke memories of real, genuine hurt.

 

[Rainhill]

I said it doesn’t offend me.

You clearly aren’t offended by the remarks from black people I’ve mentioned.

What’s the difference?


I’d say it was a person who will spend all day on a forum making accusations then not having the courage of his own convictions to answer a straightforward question.

You fit the lefty soft cock stereotype quite nicely.

What a bizarre individual. Everyone who objects to racism on football terraces is a "lefty soft cock"?

 

[Mrjardine]

I'm just not falling for your deflection tactics. Racists that think it's fine to make the comments in the OP have have no moral fibre and are racist cowards. People like me who stand up against shit like that are 100x the man you are.

It’s not a deflections just a simple wuestion you don’t have the spine to answer:
It’s nothing I didn’t expect so no real surprise.

What a bizarre individual. Everyone who objects to racism on football terraces is a "lefty soft cock"?

Are they?

 

[Chappers]

What a bizarre individual. Everyone who objects to racism on football terraces is a "lefty soft cock"?

It's appears that anyone who doesn't agree with any of the right wing bull shit on here gets called that.

Makes not one bit of sense.

 

[Sylvester Malone]

I said it doesn’t offend me.

You clearly aren’t offended by the remarks from black people I’ve mentioned.

What’s the difference?


I’d say it was a person who will spend all day on a forum making accusations then not having the courage of his own convictions to answer a straightforward question.

You fit the lefty soft cock stereotype quite nicely.

I don't usually mind you that much, but somehow you've manage to bracket yourself into a group of 2 on here with the forums most racist, pig ignorant, white supremacist - @Buchans Boots. Formerly known as My Boy Harry.

He's an overweight sweaty seething mess of hatred and bile. A stain on Sunderland AFC.

Quite what that makes you I'm not sure.

 

[HebburnMackem]

It’s not a deflections just a simple wuestion you don’t have the spine to answer:
It’s nothing I didn’t expect so no real surprise.

This thread is about a specific racist comment made to a specific black person. It's not about white people or other incidents. THAT is by definition a deflection tactic.
You throw the word "spineless" and "soft cock" around and you are not even man enough to admit you're deflecting and that you're a racist. You're utterly pathetic.