SETI scientists spot 72 signals 'from alien galaxy' 3bn light years away

Until someone can design a way to travel faster than light, mankind is not going anywhere.
Even if it was possible to put a human into cryosleep without brain damage. Would you trust a bit of tech not to breakdown after 10 years never mind 1000.
If you built ships big enough for a people to live and breed on, by the time the future generation got anywhere they wouldn't have a clue how to live off the land they found. That's if some space bacteria didn't kill them in their first breath.
 


So "pop, just like magic, they appear?"
no they've always been here. Not necessarily a particular galaxy as they have formed over time from matter within the universe, but the big bang was just an event that happened in the universe.

We don't have to have a 'Start' - it could easily have always existed.

Until someone can design a way to travel faster than light, mankind is not going anywhere.
Even if it was possible to put a human into cryosleep without brain damage. Would you trust a bit of tech not to breakdown after 10 years never mind 1000.
If you built ships big enough for a people to live and breed on, by the time the future generation got anywhere they wouldn't have a clue how to live off the land they found. That's if some space bacteria didn't kill them in their first breath.
You don't need to travel in a linear fashion, the universe is not that shape anyway. The distance between two points in the universe varies, we just need to find the shortest paths.
 
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Until someone can design a way to travel faster than light, mankind is not going anywhere.
Even if it was possible to put a human into cryosleep without brain damage. Would you trust a bit of tech not to breakdown after 10 years never mind 1000.
If you built ships big enough for a people to live and breed on, by the time the future generation got anywhere they wouldn't have a clue how to live off the land they found. That's if some space bacteria didn't kill them in their first breath.
How would people not have a clue what the mission was?
 
no they've always been here. Not necessarily a particular galaxy as they have formed over time from matter within the universe, but the big bang was just an event that happened in the universe.

We don't have to have a 'Start' - it could easily have always existed.


You don't need to travel in a linear fashion, the universe is not that shape anyway. The distance between two points in the universe varies, we just need to find the shortest paths.
Trying to keep it simple. It's more likely that being able to warp space would happen before getting a spaceship to accelerate to faster than light. Both are a long way off in the future because of the energy needed.
Light sails are more likely but they would only get part of the way to light speed.

How would people not have a clue what the mission was?
If you are talking about a journey of 1000 years the many generations of people who had been born in space would only know from recorded history.
 
no they've always been here. Not necessarily a particular galaxy as they have formed over time from matter within the universe, but the big bang was just an event that happened in the universe.

We don't have to have a 'Start' - it could easily have always existed.


You don't need to travel in a linear fashion, the universe is not that shape anyway. The distance between two points in the universe varies, we just need to find the shortest paths.
Of course there needs to have been a start. Where did the elements come from in the first place for that galaxy to form?
 
Of course there needs to have been a start. Where did the elements come from in the first place for that galaxy to form?
there really doesn't need to be a start. The elements have always existed, there isn't a beginning of time just in the same way as there isn't a maximum number.
 
People are going to start talking about Mars next.
Needs a boost this thread it's a bit betwixt and between

Until someone can design a way to travel faster than light, mankind is not going anywhere.
Even if it was possible to put a human into cryosleep without brain damage. Would you trust a bit of tech not to breakdown after 10 years never mind 1000.
If you built ships big enough for a people to live and breed on, by the time the future generation got anywhere they wouldn't have a clue how to live off the land they found. That's if some space bacteria didn't kill them in their first breath.
True.... think I'll just stick to Coventry away
 
So just like magic.. I don't think so somehow.
no, not like magic. The matter never just appeared - it's always been here. Why does it need to be created at a point in time?

Where did it come from? - nowhere, it's always been here.

If you think it was created, then you have a cyclic argument. e.g. if God made the universe, who made God and who made the thing that made the thing the made God as so on. Because we are here, the only explanation for the universe is that everything particle wise has always existed.
 
They are far more successful than we are.
So they've been around "several tens of millions of years" longer than us and still haven't figured out how to not pass-out from exhaustion in the middle of a busy pavement? Daft little twats. Fine, next time I see one dying I won't help it I'll get on my knees and laugh at it's stupid yellow little face.

Bees :mad:
 
No, thats religion you're thinking of.
Wasn't thinking that either

no, not like magic. The matter never just appeared - it's always been here. Why does it need to be created at a point in time?

Where did it come from? - nowhere, it's always been here.

If you think it was created, then you have a cyclic argument. e.g. if God made the universe, who made God and who made the thing that made the thing the made God as so on. Because we are here, the only explanation for the universe is that everything particle wise has always existed.
Not at all.

Its got to have come from somewhere though. Not god, then what? The easy answer is" its always been there"

In other words, you aint got a clue
 
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So they've been around "several tens of millions of years" longer than us and still haven't figured out how to not pass-out from exhaustion in the middle of a busy pavement? Daft little twats. Fine, next time I see one dying I won't help it I'll get on my knees and laugh at it's stupid yellow little face.

Bees :mad:

It appears to have worked OK for them though. Until we turned up of course......
 
Keeping quiet so we don't find them if they've any sense.

Keeping things brief, it's been postulated there's plenty life out there, however, bar as far as we know the Earth, it's not got past the microbial stage.

There was an event 500 million plus years ago that allowed multicellular life to evolve and it has, as far as is known, happened only once in Earth's history. The event, the merger of two life forms to allow a cell with a nucleus as per modern multicellular lifeforms, was so unlikely that it's postulated it has not or has been very unlikely to have happened elsewhere.

We could therefore well be alone.

Or aliens could be keeping a low profile so the mags don't spot them.

The point about the abiogenesis event was that it was the FIRST. There was no other life around. If it happened now, whatever life was produced would simply be gobbled up by a predator so we would never know it had happened.
Plus in those days the atmosphere was vastly different and there was virtually no oxygen.
 
Errr.... no!

The best scientists will tell you that we only have evidence of OUR type of life. And for that we have a sample size of exactly... 1.

The best scientists will admit that they are still unsure as to how, exactly, life started on this planet.

The only way we'll find out is to go out there and look for other examples.

We may find them under the ice crusts of Europa or other moons of the gas giants. Perhaps life is capable of forming without the benefits of sunlight?

The one thing that the BEST scientists will tell you is that there is a shit load of stuff they still don't know.

You say "Errr...no!" then kind of agree with everything I say. What did I say that you think is incorrect?
 

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