Another NEPL club on the move??

[minty]

Quite a bit of bedwetting over the NEPL on here. Remember only the Academy have bailed out this year. Brandon were removed. Plenty teams in NEPL1 wanting promotion, and plenty DCL and NTSL teams wanting to joing NEPL1. Having played in the NEPL this year, I have sensed no clubs being disillusioned with the league, or struggling to get sides out (bar Brandon).

Stockton could go to NYSD, as mentioned previously that makes sense geographically, and having spoken to Blaydon lads they have no intention of leaving, they have spent nothing this year and struggled as they knew relegation wasn't an issue.

I totally agree the NEPL has nothing to worry about around attracting teams however with the criteria the pool will be getting smaller by the year.

As a thought if Stockton have 1 more season and if there is no relegation as per this year, then a lot of clubs will spend significantly less in 2019 as there is no risks in either league. Only playing for pride really and a game that lasts a while so people have a few pints.

The leagues that tend to suffer are the ones on the bottom of the lader

 

[mackemmover94]

To be fair despite my previous rantings I am not suggesting that the NEPL is solely responsible for the demise of local cricket , obviously lack of interest is also a major factor. However to put greater demands and costs. on local clubs at a time when they were already struggling was always going to end badly. Chester and South North can be in a 2 team Premier League.

Would still just be a one-horse race.

 

[wicketkeeper]

I totally agree the NEPL has nothing to worry about around attracting teams however with the criteria the pool will be getting smaller by the year.

As a thought if Stockton have 1 more season and if there is no relegation as per this year, then a lot of clubs will spend significantly less in 2019 as there is no risks in either league. Only playing for pride really and a game that lasts a while so people have a few pints.

The leagues that tend to suffer are the ones on the bottom of the lader

That is the point I have made time and time again re the demise of the DSL.
Relegation forces clubs to spend money they cant afford and stops clubs giving younger players an opportunity.

 

[minty]

That is the point I have made time and time again re the demise of the DSL.
Relegation forces clubs to spend money they cant afford and stops clubs giving younger players an opportunity.

It's a hard one really as the point of the pyramid was for everyone to fin their level after a few years. Which is fine for first team cricket but has an impact on 2nds and 3rds.

The only option would be to make leagues a closed shop but there is the problem, The ECB want a structure for clubs to move up the ranks so to obtain funding a Premier League must show a promotion / relegation structure. The main reason why NEPL1 was formed

Anyway the state of overall cricket is on the decline with participation levels dropping like a sack of shite. A new system is needed to ensure there is more flexibility for clubs who are struggling to field 2 sides.

 

[brandon]

That is the point I have made time and time again re the demise of the DSL.
Relegation forces clubs to spend money they cant afford and stops clubs giving younger players an opportunity.

They need to find their correct level within the pyramid then don’t they? No point living a lie, playing in a league that’s too high for their standard.

I also include my own club in that, perhaps the best thing for us is to take our medicine and start again from the bottom.

 

[Ageing trundler]

We have to react to rapidly changing times where stable, 'top' clubs are finding it so hard to put out teams. Not something that League committees are good at doing in my experience. I fear it will get a lot worse before something is done.

We have to react to rapidly changing times where stable, 'top' clubs are finding it so hard to put out teams. Not something that League committees are good at doing in my experience. I fear it will get a lot worse before something is done.

Maybe 2 clubs should be relegated/promoted within the higher leagues for a start?

 

[minty]

We have to react to rapidly changing times where stable, 'top' clubs are finding it so hard to put out teams. Not something that League committees are good at doing in my experience. I fear it will get a lot worse before something is done.


Maybe 2 clubs should be relegated/promoted within the higher leagues for a start?

Would that not make the problem worse as even more money would be thrown at the problem?? I don't think clubs are bothered about moving between NEPL and NEPL1 but I think most don't want to go out of NEPL1 into the DCL league

Assume same principle between DCL1 and DCL2...No one wants to go down from DCL2 into the NEDL

 

[Ageing trundler]

But I can't see just 1 club not being able to manage at the bottom of a division. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind (as the song goes).

 

[Dadsarmy73]

We need a complete system run by 1 body, not different league committees who are only looking at their own interests.

NEPl,dcl,nedl all amalgamated into say 10 or more divisions, with second teams playing in the same system. This removes the need for teams to have to field second teams and all teams (firsts and seconds) will find their level.

After a few seasons we won’t have massive mismatches which understandably put players off, weaker first XIs player stronger seconds as promotion and relegation takes its course.

Allow each club to have an overseas pro and a “Durham player” if they want

Keep Sunday cricket for development teams and those looking for a more friendly game, again under the one banner. Get the hetton lyons league and NEPl 3rd division under the same structure.

 

[Ageing trundler]

We need a complete system run by 1 body, not different league committees who are only looking at their own interests.

NEPl,dcl,nedl all amalgamated into say 10 or more divisions, with second teams playing in the same system. This removes the need for teams to have to field second teams and all teams (firsts and seconds) will find their level.

After a few seasons we won’t have massive mismatches which understandably put players off, weaker first XIs player stronger seconds as promotion and relegation takes its course.

Allow each club to have an overseas pro and a “Durham player” if they want

Keep Sunday cricket for development teams and those looking for a more friendly game, again under the one banner. Get the hetton lyons league and NEPl 3rd division under the same structure.

Seconded

 

[pavarotti1980]

We need a complete system run by 1 body, not different league committees who are only looking at their own interests.

NEPl,dcl,nedl all amalgamated into say 10 or more divisions, with second teams playing in the same system. This removes the need for teams to have to field second teams and all teams (firsts and seconds) will find their level.

After a few seasons we won’t have massive mismatches which understandably put players off, weaker first XIs player stronger seconds as promotion and relegation takes its course.

Allow each club to have an overseas pro and a “Durham player” if they want

Keep Sunday cricket for development teams and those looking for a more friendly game, again under the one banner. Get the hetton lyons league and NEPl 3rd division under the same structure.

Durham just needs to mirrow what has happened in Northumberland which will give some end of season competition to get into NEPL.

Rest of it is far too sensible so we know what will happen

 

[brandon]

We need a complete system run by 1 body, not different league committees who are only looking at their own interests.

NEPl,dcl,nedl all amalgamated into say 10 or more divisions, with second teams playing in the same system. This removes the need for teams to have to field second teams and all teams (firsts and seconds) will find their level.

After a few seasons we won’t have massive mismatches which understandably put players off, weaker first XIs player stronger seconds as promotion and relegation takes its course.

Allow each club to have an overseas pro and a “Durham player” if they want

Keep Sunday cricket for development teams and those looking for a more friendly game, again under the one banner. Get the hetton lyons league and NEPl 3rd division under the same structure.

Exactly what I said a few days ago

 

[Buchans Boots]

What is more strange is the Academy decision to pull out of the league.

Didnt know that. What are the up and coming lads going to do? A lot of things, cricket wise, seem to be unravelling in the NE ATM.

Most Counties do not operate Academy teams the way Durham do.
They have less players in their Academies and each one is "allocated" to a "premier" league club and play their Saturday cricket there.
Mid week they will train with contracted players and play games, also mid week.
This way the Academy players will be under pressure to perform, almost, as a second "professional".
Batters will bat every week and bowlers will bowl every week.

The vast majority of them already have a club, most of them NEPL ones. I dont know one lad currently in the Academy setup who doesnt already have a parent club. This is nothing new really, except that DCCC are effectively folding their academy team.

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“With club’s now finding it harder to turn out sides and there not being the volume of players to support a playing side in the league for a full season..."

What an indictment on local cricket. Basically less and less interest in playing cricket and the pool of players is becoming smaller and smaller. There are loads of reasons why this is, including:

Too many clubs,
Loads of lads, like mine, find spending a whole day playing 2nd team cricket boring (sad as it may seem), and
Cricket is not on anyone's radar, particularly with Sky TV showing 95% of it.

 

[Voice of fair play]

Didnt know that. What are the up and coming lads going to do? A lot of things, cricket wise, seem to be unravelling in the NE ATM.

The vast majority of them already have a club, most of them NEPL ones. I dont know one lad currently in the Academy setup who doesnt already have a parent club. This is nothing new really, except that DCCC are effectively folding their academy team.

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“With club’s now finding it harder to turn out sides and there not being the volume of players to support a playing side in the league for a full season..."

What an indictment on local cricket. Basically less and less interest in playing cricket and the pool of players is becoming smaller and smaller. There are loads of reasons why this is, including:

Too many clubs,
Loads of lads, like mine, find spending a whole day playing 2nd team cricket boring (sad as it may seem), and
Cricket is not on anyone's radar, particularly with Sky TV showing 95% of it.

I think the problem is all round there is not the interest in cricket they was years ago and people need to accept that.

When I was a kid it was simply football in the winter and cricket in the summer that simple, Niw there is soo many other distractions for kids, PlayStations,IPads as well as football become too big and more or less played all year even in the summer.

The ECB seemed to have grasped this to a certain extent, however every tine they mention anything new or have a different idea to try a gain more participation it is meet by disdain by the cricket purists especially on this board.

Sure some of the ideas the ECB are probably not good like the new hundred idea, but at least they trying to increase participation which is vital for the longevity of the game.

 

[ollie c]

I think the problem is all round there is not the interest in cricket they was years ago and people need to accept that.

When I was a kid it was simply football in the winter and cricket in the summer that simple, Niw there is soo many other distractions for kids, PlayStations,IPads as well as football become too big and more or less played all year even in the summer.

The ECB seemed to have grasped this to a certain extent, however every tine they mention anything new or have a different idea to try a gain more participation it is meet by disdain by the cricket purists especially on this board.

Sure some of the ideas the ECB are probably not good like the new hundred idea, but at least they trying to increase participation which is vital for the longevity of the game.

Good post.

 

[brandon]

Sure some of the ideas the ECB are probably not good like the new hundred idea, but at least they trying to increase participation which is vital for the longevity of the game.

To be honest I think you’re giving them far too much credit, because quite clearly the ridiculous idea of The Hundred isn’t about boosting participation or longevity at all is it? It’s about making money - purely and simply.

How can something that more than HALVES the number of teams ever going to increase participation?

Now I concede, I’m not the biggest fan of FTECB - but I think it’s more than fair for me to criticise The Hundred based on their recent track record of fuckwittery.

 

[Voice of fair play]

To be honest I think you’re giving them far too much credit, because quite clearly the ridiculous idea of The Hundred isn’t about boosting participation or longevity at all is it? It’s about making money - purely and simply.

How can something that more than HALVES the number of teams ever going to increase participation?

Now I concede, I’m not the biggest fan of FTECB - but I think it’s more than fair for me to criticise The Hundred based on their recent track record of fuckwittery.

Well yeah that’s a fair point mate, I am certainly not saying the hundred is a good idea far from it.

What I am saying without a shadow of a doubt is something needs to be done to increase participation and needs to be done very quickly imo.

I do think though that if the ECB did. come up with a good idea it would immediately be dismissed by some on here as a bad idea simply because it has come from them!

 

[Greavsie]

Well yeah that’s a fair point mate, I am certainly not saying the hundred is a good idea far from it.

What I am saying without a shadow of a doubt is something needs to be done to increase participation and needs to be done very quickly imo.

I do think though that if the ECB did. come up with a good idea it would immediately be dismissed by some on here as a bad idea simply because it has come from them!

To be fair, they came up with the excellent All Stars for 4-8 year olds and most people have welcomed and embraced it. This is certainly a scheme that will improve participation

 

[Voice of fair play]

To be fair, they came up with the excellent All Stars for 4-8 year olds and most people have welcomed and embraced it. This is certainly a scheme that will improve participation

Yeah fair enough anything that improves and increases participation has to be applauded.

 

[Stattos child]

Called in at phili today an excellent ran club with a good junior set up. They played horden (2nd x1 cricket) another dsl stalwart who had massive success in 90's. Apparently horden had 9 they let best batters bat twice everyone in phili team other than wicketkeeper bowled and still horden all out for 80 ish
Anyone who says Nepl is successful and local league cricket is better needs to read the above again. Poor players being paid at dcl1 and dcl2 level is absolute disgrace and they need to look at themselves and play for love of game rather than money. Have a look at yourselves players in Nepl 2nd teams are better than u so stop taking money out of dcl clubs and stretch ur selves to play at a higher level if u think u r good enough
Rant over but really concerned about ne cricket at moment