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Some rubbish written about agents

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Cat 3 said:
We don’t want ndong to stay. We wanted the agent to find a buyer. We don’t want to honour ndong contract
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That’s a load of rubbish N’Dong wanted the move we sent him on loan paid half his wages then we had an offer for him which his greedy agent made a dogs breakfast of by demanding an exorbitant fee. Where is the club at fault there.
 
chunksafc said:
Mcnairs agent has said his client will not play for us again - club have said they want him to stay

Roswell has done the absolute bare minimum to collect his wages, random injuries etc have stopped him being selected for the team for which he is contracted to play for

Cattermole's agent has said he wants to leave but will not leave a penny of his contract behind - club haven't said he has to go, it's his choice to break his contact so break it and leave w ithoit a penny or stay and play

Ndong and khazri don't want to be here and want to leave? Club haven't said they have to leave or want them to.

All the above players need to do is put in a transfer request, but they won't as they lose their so called loyalty bonus
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Nailed it!
 
DJM said:
And we want as much of the money back we have wasted on him. Your point is?
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Sunderland want to cut and run
riffraff said:
We all know former players man. Some on here know current players. Some know former and current agents anarl. Judging by your post you’re both dumb enough and venal enough to be either. Or both.
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Unlike you I do seem to be dumb. I wish I was like you - unable to make points without being personally abusive and incredibly wise about people I don’t know
 
Cat 3 said:
I'm sorry i just dont buy into some of the vindictive rubbish written on here about agents (including our former CEO)

Agents are their to represent footballers - often young and invariably uneducated - in deals which are often multi million pound deals negotiated with multi millionaires/billionaires or by their million pound a year earning lackies.

Football is a multi billion pound business which unfortunately in recent years we have been shit at. You pay players a lot of money and sign long term contracts with them. If they turn out to be less good than expected you suck it up and pay their contract for the duration. If they turn out to be better than expected you sell them - like chattels or pieces of meat - for a fee.

Our problem is that we have not been very good at the business of football - significantly worse than we have been at the business of playing football (which we have been poor at).

Our new owners - who i have a lot of time for - are being slightly disingenuous when they hang Paddy McNair out to dry. Could we afford to keep his maybe - but the truth is it does not make business sense to have a £20k a week player in the third tier if we could sell him for £5m. The unpatetable truth is if N'dong, Khasri, Oviedo, McNair, catts etc said tomorrow we are all staying and committed to the fight we would be financially f**ked.

The personal abuse levelled at Catts and Rodwell or Bent or even at time Phillips or Hutchinson on here is pathetic. Football is a simple business you contract with a player - you are making a punt on his future performances and value. If someone else wants to pay more you match it or cash in. If no one wants to sign him and his form deteriorates you suck it up. Some clubs eg Benfica and Porto are brilliant at this - we are pathetic.

Under Poyet and at times Dick for me Catts was our best performer - hence why he got a good contract. He is entitled to see out that contract. Rodwell was on a good deal at City (he could of stayed but he wanted football) he is entitled to his contract. As for M Byrne she is entitled to earn a living and she sounds like she is better at representing players than a CEO - so what shes moved on so should we.

One final point. In a couple of years we will hopefully be a buyer of players again. These agents we are publicly abusing - the club will be schmoozing to get them to sell their players to us.
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They are largely parasites that are destroying the game.
 
stevie-wonder said:
It’s the Cattermole one that gets me, she says he wants a free transfer AND all the money for the next 3 years??

How does that work out? I’m struggling here.
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She hasn’t said that. She’s said he won’t leave money on the table. Which means whatever shortfall he gets in a new deal we should make good. That is not the same thing

That is pretty common in football - why we continue paying part of wages when players are loaned
 
Cat 3 said:
I'm sorry i just dont buy into some of the vindictive rubbish written on here about agents (including our former CEO)

Agents are their to represent footballers - often young and invariably uneducated - in deals which are often multi million pound deals negotiated with multi millionaires/billionaires or by their million pound a year earning lackies.

Football is a multi billion pound business which unfortunately in recent years we have been shit at. You pay players a lot of money and sign long term contracts with them. If they turn out to be less good than expected you suck it up and pay their contract for the duration. If they turn out to be better than expected you sell them - like chattels or pieces of meat - for a fee.

Our problem is that we have not been very good at the business of football - significantly worse than we have been at the business of playing football (which we have been poor at).

Our new owners - who i have a lot of time for - are being slightly disingenuous when they hang Paddy McNair out to dry. Could we afford to keep his maybe - but the truth is it does not make business sense to have a £20k a week player in the third tier if we could sell him for £5m. The unpatetable truth is if N'dong, Khasri, Oviedo, McNair, catts etc said tomorrow we are all staying and committed to the fight we would be financially f**ked.

The personal abuse levelled at Catts and Rodwell or Bent or even at time Phillips or Hutchinson on here is pathetic. Football is a simple business you contract with a player - you are making a punt on his future performances and value. If someone else wants to pay more you match it or cash in. If no one wants to sign him and his form deteriorates you suck it up. Some clubs eg Benfica and Porto are brilliant at this - we are pathetic.

Under Poyet and at times Dick for me Catts was our best performer - hence why he got a good contract. He is entitled to see out that contract. Rodwell was on a good deal at City (he could of stayed but he wanted football) he is entitled to his contract. As for M Byrne she is entitled to earn a living and she sounds like she is better at representing players than a CEO - so what shes moved on so should we.

One final point. In a couple of years we will hopefully be a buyer of players again. These agents we are publicly abusing - the club will be schmoozing to get them to sell their players to us.
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Too late for this waffling apology now, the plod are on the case squire
 
Cat 3 said:
She hasn’t said that. She’s said he won’t leave money on the table. Which means whatever shortfall he gets in a new deal we should make good. That is not the same thing

That is pretty common in football - why we continue paying part of wages when players are loaned
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But he’s the one who wants off, man. If he can’t negotiate better, tough.
 
Cat 3 said:
She hasn’t said that. She’s said he won’t leave money on the table. Which means whatever shortfall he gets in a new deal we should make good. That is not the same thing

That is pretty common in football - why we continue paying part of wages when players are loaned
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He wants to earn his contracted wages? Then stay and earn them.

He wants to leave and earn the wages he was on here? Then negotiate that with the club you want to move to, if they dont agree then you have a choice, stay here and earn your money or fuck off and earn less
 
chunksafc said:
He wants to earn his contracted wages? Then stay and earn them.

He wants to leave and earn the wages he was on here? Then negotiate that with the club you want to move to, if they dont agree then you have a choice, stay here and earn your money or fuck off and earn less
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We want him gone we can’t afford him. Do you really think Donald wants him to stay ? We want to rip up his contract
 
Cat 3 said:
She hasn’t said that. She’s said he won’t leave money on the table. Which means whatever shortfall he gets in a new deal we should make good. That is not the same thing

That is pretty common in football - why we continue paying part of wages when players are loaned
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Common if the club want to offload a player on loan yes, but it seems Catts and his agent have decided he’s leaving not the club.
 
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