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The Times - Donald - Loans

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The Rat said:
:lol: so true

I have been called every name under the sun just for posting the article.
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yeah but i bet you were giddy when posting...you and certain other posters on here can not wait for something to go wrong...it's disgusting tbh, you are not SUPPORTERS !
 
Rizla said:
It's nothing about gloating, it's just my opinion which I'm entitled to voice.

At the start of every season there is this blind optimism amongst 90% of posters, with anyone offering an alternative viewpoint being called a mag or bedwetter.

Then 10 games into the season when it goes tits up, the 90% turn negative and anyone who remains positive is a 'happy clapper'. That's how it's been on the SMB for nearly 20 years.
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You're bang on with this, I have faith in the new owners but what you have just said there is 100% true.
 
JimmyQuinn said:
Can understand that like but get the feeling anyone who dares question things at the moment gets the same response!
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bedwetters? absolutely !! have you taken the 90mins to listen to him speak yesterday? I have, twice now. He talks nothing but sense yet 1st thing this morning on twitter some bunggalow brained twat said "care to explain yourself mr stewart with regards to this news article" i mean how cringeworthy and down right rude to speak to a man that has seemingly saved Sunderland from the brink...
 
Dogbark said:
The article claims that Short is getting 50% of the parachute money. He isn't. No sympathy for the OP at all from me.
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There are glaring inaccuracies but the main point of the piece - that the club is looking into short-term financing - has been confirmed as true by the man himself. If people took the time not to see everything in such binary terms of 'great' and 'terrible' it would help.

Gosforth Mackem said:
bedwetters? absolutely !! have you taken the 90mins to listen to him speak yesterday? I have, twice now. He talks nothing but sense yet 1st thing this morning on twitter some bunggalow brained twat said "care to explain yourself mr stewart with regards to this news article" i mean how cringeworthy and down right rude to speak to a man that has seemingly saved Sunderland from the brink...
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I've listened to a significant chunk of it as well as reading up on it and the ALS stuff. He talks plenty of sense but that doesn't mean people can't ask questions. Indeed he's encouraged them to do so.
 
JimmyQuinn said:
There are glaring inaccuracies but the main point of the piece - that the club is looking into short-term financing - has been confirmed as true by the man himself. If people took the time not to see everything in such binary terms of 'great' and 'terrible' it would help.



I've listened to a significant chunk of it as well as reading up on it and the ALS stuff. He talks plenty of sense but that doesn't mean people can't ask questions. Indeed he's encouraged them to do so.
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He also mentioned the 'tone' of the question. Personally i could not bring myself as a grown man to either tag or pm him on twitter...the sooner he comes off there and sticks to the RR podcasts etc, the better. I love Sunderland but my god the amount of thick twats we have is more than i thought
 
The Rat said:
Worrying.

Sunderland are facing cash-flow problems only one month after Stewart Donald's takeover of the club, with the new owner speaking to seven financiers about securing loans to help kick-start his regime.

What the fuck?

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Fake news
 
After reading through this thread, there is a fair amount of people who either haven't listened to the podcast yesterday, or digested it properly and fully understood it. SD pointed to 3 things to do with cash - upcoming player transfer payments (for a lot of players that don't even play for us), Alverez pt II, and Watford not taking on N'Dong for the agreed amount, which Short said was a sure thing. So that has left SD with a 'hole' as he put it yesterday. He knows we need a massive overhaul of the squad, he's working hard to get the wage bill down (from something like 30 million to 16 or so at the moment, and it is going down all the time), but these 'extra' unforeseen costs will put a dent in these plans. He is talking to Short to structure this, and hopefully gives the bill to Short to pay back the short-term loan.

Personally the more I listen to these guys, it sounds like they know what they are doing. They know what they need to do. And are working to do it.
 
JimmyQuinn said:
There are glaring inaccuracies but the main point of the piece - that the club is looking into short-term financing - has been confirmed as true by the man himself. If people took the time not to see everything in such binary terms of 'great' and 'terrible' it would help.
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Which Johnson refers to as 'worrying'

:lol:
 
Dogbark said:
Which Johnson refers to as 'worrying'

:lol:
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Yeah I don't know that it's worrying. But the owner has set the 'debt-free' expectation so I think it's unfair to have a go at people who are irked when that mightn't prove to be the case.

He was also just sharing an article/
 
JimmyQuinn said:
Yeah I don't know that it's worrying. But the owner has set the 'debt-free' expectation so I think it's unfair to have a go at people who are irked when that mightn't prove to be the case.

He was also just sharing an article/
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You mean people who don't understand 'cash flow'?
 
JimmyQuinn said:
Can understand that like but get the feeling anyone who dares question things at the moment gets the same response!
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Absolutely how I feel like.

These owners aren't going to do everything right, that is life. Doesn't mean someone is against them when you question something.

Seems to middle ground at the minute.
 
Dogbark said:
You mean people who don't understand 'cash flow'?
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I don't think it's necessarily a case of not understanding it. For all Donald has been open and honest there've also been some contradictions in things he's said around the finances.

Put the lad right if you think he's wrong. People telling him he's a mag/arsehole/whatever just look like they'll believe anything they're told as gospel.
 
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