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England v Pakistan 2nd Test, Headingley

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The Rat said:
Nobody wins it’s just a point of view

I think it’s a fair comment that we’ve picked a lot of players with good county records

You can just tell buttler has played in pressure situations for years now so it won’t phase him, which is half the battle

Hope it works long term
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That is the key point he has looked very very calm under pressure situations time and time again.

He may yet fail mind because his technique may not be up too it.

However I don’t think soo aa think he is a top notch cricketer and have done since he first came on to the scene as a young lad at Somerset.

We should always give extra chances to players of his talent.

I mean we not exactly blessed them
 
Bess looks a cracking character and cricketer, its just can he bowl spin well enough, otherwise we are in the Mo Ali situation again
 
Should definitely drop Anderson as Vaughan was hinting at but didn’t dare say. He’s nee good anymore. Only averaging about 17 with the ball in the last 16 tests
 
Not convinced with Curran mind. Don’t see him having too much of a test match career. At his height you have to be pretty special at this level.
 
Silly Point said:
Aye back to work tomorrow for me then. Lancs v Yorkshire on Tuesday though.
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With test finishing before Tuesday, I wouldn't mind that being on sky

Classic England. The are like the big dipper at Blackpool.

I've missed all today so hopefully will see a bit later and the highlights

Mrjardine said:
Not convinced with Curran mind. Don’t see him having too much of a test match career. At his height you have to be pretty special at this level.
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I think the other curran as the one with more potential.

Appears to be a bit bigger and stronger
 
stephen cartwright said:
With test finishing before Tuesday, I wouldn't mind that being on sky

Classic England. The are like the big dipper at Blackpool.

I've missed all today so hopefully will see a bit later and the highlights


I think the other curran as the one with more potential.

Appears to be a bit bigger and stronger
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Totally agree.
5ft 9 and bowling at 80mph just isn’t going to cut it at this level I’m afraid.
Reminds me a bit of another diminutive left armer from the 90s Mike Smith.
 
I think in buttler, the more time he has at the crease, he will become destructive at the tail end.

He came out yesterday and played an IPL style clip to leg, which he got away with

He then reigned it back and then finally the full range came to fruition

He has every shot available to him and personally I would have had him in the team during the ashes, to give some back

As for his county average both Vaughan and Trescothick proved that it didn't matter as they had the class to flourish at test level, same as buttler will
 
Mrjardine said:
Totally agree.
5ft 9 and bowling at 80mph just isn’t going to cut it at this level I’m afraid.
Reminds me a bit of another diminutive left armer from the 90s Mike Smith.
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He will be an all rounder, he swings it a lot, if he can be a top class batsman he will have a chance

He’s 19 like

stephen cartwright said:
I think in buttler, the more time he has at the crease, he will become destructive at the tail end.

He came out yesterday and played an IPL style clip to leg, which he got away with

He then reigned it back and then finally the full range came to fruition

He has every shot available to him and personally I would have had him in the team during the ashes, to give some back

As for his county average both Vaughan and Trescothick proved that it didn't matter as they had the class to flourish at test level, same as buttler will
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The last point is overplayed like

Almost every other batsman has had a good average, so they are the exception not the rule

Vaughan only just about averaged 40 she was an awful ODI player, one of our most over rated batsman ever, lived off one tour to Australia
 
The Rat said:
He will be an all rounder, he swings it a lot, if he can be a top class batsman he will have a chance

He’s 19 like
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He’s not going to get any taller, might like woakes put on a yard of pace which will help but to have an impact as a bowler at this level when his height you have to be special.
Never seen enough of his batting to see how good he looks with that.
 
Mrjardine said:
He’s not going to get any taller, might like woakes put on a yard of pace which will help but to have an impact as a bowler at this level when his height you have to be special.
Never seen enough of his batting to see how good he looks with that.
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Gough is 5'9" - if Curran can up his pace to mid-80s then there's no reason why he couldn't have a career in international cricket. More likely in white ball cricket I'd say
 
The Rat said:
He will be an all rounder, he swings it a lot, if he can be a top class batsman he will have a chance

He’s 19 like



The last point is overplayed like

Almost every other batsman has had a good average, so they are the exception not the rule

Vaughan only just about averaged 40 she was an awful ODI player, one of our most over rated batsman ever, lived off one tour to Australia
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Vaughan was a class batsman. Did you see the interview with James Taylor yesterday?

The FTECB have employed six people, including Taylor, to go around the country to look for players who they feel will be capable of playing test cricket.

He stated that although stats will be one area, they are being instructed to emphasis character, maturity and natural ability.
 
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